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  1. I don't put all my best stuff in the cache at once. I'll put inexpensive stuff like stickers, maybe some small plastic insects or animals (that come several in a bag for a dollar), cute refrigerator magnets, pencils, etc. and maybe one or two more expensive things (not much more expensive). Then after the cache has been visited a number of times I'll check on it and maybe add something nice as a big surprise for the next cacher.

    I want people to trade for my expensive stuff even if they can't trade up because if that nice stuff is left in the cache too long it's apt to get broken or dirtied or rusted and become junk, so I just don't put expensive stuff out all at once. If cachers trade I expect them to leave the cache in nice shape with some nice swag so the next person will be happy to find it. Doesn't have to be expensive, most people know what they like to find- I let that be my guide. I'll often leave stuff if the cache has deteriorated whether I trade or not. For me it's about having something nice for the next person to find.

  2. I do actually get permission from the cities I place them in, but that process was a whole long story in itself which I won't go into here.

    I got permission from one city to place caches in the parks. Well I didn't exactly place them in the parks. They're in the city "park"ing lots. Kind of walking a thin line there.

    I did have one cache in a park. It was in a stone wall, but when people started removing the rocks I archived it. So then I decided to put one in a tree in the park, but noticed people were breaking branches off this nicely shaped specimen tree looking for the cache. I archived that. So I put one near a garden. When it went missing I went to replace it and noticed the mulch around the flowers looked like it had been dug through as if someone thought the cache might be buried..er..covered (we don't bury things here) with the mulch. I archived it. So you can see why they ended up in the parking lots. These are all very good reasons why you should check on your caches frequently, especially in well kept parks.

     

    My girlfriend's policy is if there is a cache/letterbox in the area then the person who put it there must have gotten permission and so it must be okay. Do you see a flaw in her logic? :rolleyes:

  3. I'll get inexpensive stuff at yard sales and garage sales. You can find unopened stuff for .25 to .50 cents. I've found a big box of McDonald happy meal toys, unopened for a quarter each at a garage sale. At my thrift store another big basket of unopened McDonald toys for fifty cents each. Cars and balls for .10 to .25 cents each in original wrappers at rummage sale. Also scour the close out and dollar bins in stores -you never know. Having this inexpensive stuff allows me to replenish caches that might be getting empty.

  4. Someone logged my cache twice online. I was going to suggest that he delete one of the logs. I went to his profile to see if he had two logs listed for the same cache that day, but only saw one listed. Has Groundspeak fixed it so you can only log a cache once?

  5. I had a cache where I mentioned it was a favorite birding spot of mine. I asked people to list what they saw. Nobody did.

    As a side note I was out on the trail earlier today watching two bald eagles flying around together in the sky. Although they were once an endangered species, they are nothing special around here and fly up and down the river all the time.

  6. What about this cache? I found it on my lap at a event. :ph34r:

     

    SwineFlew, apparently this cache is a grandfathered cache that was published before moving caches were prohibited. Grandfathered caches are allowed because they were created before they were prohibited. Congratulations on finding this old cache.

  7. I don't feel that wading through water and tromping through muck are the same thing. I doubt a cache owner is going to use the wading attribute (he didn't in this case) for a cache that requires searching around along the sometimes mucky edge of a pond as we were doing or skirting around large muddy areas on the trail.

    I try to avoid wearing my big heavy boots because they are big and heavy and much prefer sneakers if I can get away with them. I don't suppose we need a boot attribute as much as it would just be a nice thing to have.

     

    After wading through swamps on the last trail we were on we decided that there really needs to be a "need boots" attribute. So glad we had ours.

     

    may require wading seems to mean that to me.

     

    went a bit far the other day on a cache and definitely got muck up to my knees without wading boots. However, I did find the cache. Learned I did not have to go into the swamp afterwards of course.

  8. I found a cache once that was just sitting in the middle of the sidewalk. I took it home with me and wrote the owner that I had it and didn't know where to put it back.

     

    I suppose if I were you I would have brought that cache home and written a note to the owner that the cache wasn't working and I didn't feel I could leave it there exposed.- if that were indeed the case.

  9. I'm confused. How did they get caches in a restricted area listed?
    The guidelines prohibit commercial caches. They do not prohibit caches in parks that require entrance fees, that enforce rules, etc.

     

    For example, there are night caches in parks that allow only campers with paid camping permits after dark. If you don't pay for the camping permit, they you aren't allowed in the park after dark, and you can't do the night cache.

     

    This is no different. To get access to this area of the park, you have to pay the entrance fee and obey the rules for this area of the park. Paying for access to other areas of the park does not grant access to this area of the park.

     

    Wow really- In order to hunt for a night cache in a park with camping permits you must have paid a fee to camp there even if you're not camping. How can a reviewer agree to that? I mean I suppose in essence it is an entrance fee- the price to get in- still it doesn't seem right. There is a privately owned walking trail near here that I once considered placing caches in, but nixed the idea immediately because they charged a dollar fee to walk around on the property and private commercial property with fees to enter is not allowed. Don't think that applies to state parks.

     

    Okay. I was indeed thinking perhaps there were two fees for the park mentioned in this thread- one for each part of the park. So does that mean you can only hunt for the caches in that restricted part of the park if you are part of a group paying to stay in that part of the park? Individuals can't go there?

    Or as an individual do you have to pay for each part of the park you want to cache in? This "groups' thing the OP is talking about is confusing me and I was wondering just how that would work.

  10. Perhaps these caches that were in restricted areas should not have been published and instead just used for the event also making a special announcement that under normal circumstances this area was restricted. Publishing them opens them up the general public which is liable to create more problems.

     

    OK, I'll have to spell this out all over again. The area of dispute is for Groups. Like many state parks, there's an Entrance or Day-Use fee for bringing a vehicle into a park. So any caches in State Parks are available, should you pay the fee. The area for which the cachers paid an entrance fee for is ONLY the 4x4 area South of the road. The Group area your day use fee is not applicable for (Fizzymagic has already stated this) The Hudner Property is for groups and the group was the event hosted by the park staff (users of this area had to Register to be allowed entry.)

     

    Park staff did an amazing thing for geocachers who want to use the area for group outtings or for members of groups who may be introduced to geocaching to find.

     

    This really is a cautionary tale -- slow down cowpoke! Scout it out and know what fees and or restrictions apply to areas where geocaches are placed. Just because there's a cache there doesn't mean you can just stroll on in.

     

    There is yet another section of the SVRA which is open only to Dirt Bikes and ATVs, with several nice caches in. You are not allowed to hike, bike or take a 4x4 into this area. So there is yet another example of caches which are placed which you must access by appropriate means. Violation of the park rules to make finds and play dumb later or claiming all caches must be available to all geocachers is no defense.

     

    I'm confused. How did they get caches in a restricted area listed? It would seem to me these caches would only be available for the event. One day is not enough time for a cache to be listed on geocaching.com- or so I've been led to believe. That's why I say perhaps the caches should not have been listed but just used at the event.

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