Blue Square Thing

Or find it on the map (zoom out a bit perhaps - they disappear when you're at standard load zoom for example)), click the cache icon and click the link that says "log visit". Imo the easiest way - although maps do act up a bit sometimes, particularly of late.

I would argue it can be very evident, yes. And, of course, it may not be the people finding it who are the problem but other people who are looking for it but not logging that they haven't found it.

But I was told web pages that solicit donations are promotional/commercial. I imagine the key is "reference sources". Which, I think it's fair to say, Wikipedia is and, I'm sure, that if people didn't specifically mention it then a shed load of puzzle solvers would end up at anyway. I could see your point if Keystone had said such reference sources are okay even if they are promotional/commercial. But he said such reference sources are okay, "so long as the linked page isn't promotional/commercial." My Volunteer Reviewer told me web pages are promotional/commercial if they solicit for donations. Most Wikipedia pages solicit donations. The *linked page* almost certainly isn't promotional - for example, the page on Justin Beiber isn't written to promote his "music", it's written as a reference source about him and his "music". Wikipedia occasionally has hat notes asking for donations (I almost always log in with an account so it may be that for general users they're always there) but, frankly, I think there's a pretty big difference between that and what you've previously described. And, you know, the reviewer might be wrong but there's a pile of difference between forcing someone to go to a website of your choice which asks for donations or whatever and asking them to go and research something.

Or just use the map...

But I was told web pages that solicit donations are promotional/commercial. I imagine the key is "reference sources". Which, I think it's fair to say, Wikipedia is and, I'm sure, that if people didn't specifically mention it then a shed load of puzzle solvers would end up at anyway.

There are some nice simple caches just to the south of Avebury - one near Silbury Hill which is a really nice one and then a short walking route at East Kennet. As well as a couple of virtuals in that area as well. Worth a look certainly - you could walk either from or to the stones at Avebury I'd say without a problem. On the Isle of Wight you'll probably want to go to the Needles anyway - at the far western end of the island. There's a cache inside the fort there - you need to pay to get in but it's a nice place to go anyway.

You can translate into English just in the same way you'd translate any other language into English. If you speak a bit of French then it should be easy enough to get a grasp of it, otherwise you'll have to go with an online translator or use a dictionary and so on. Your app will work in exactly the same way, assuming you have roaming turned on. If you want to you can save the caches you plan to do first and then it'll work just fine with roaming turned off as well.

Puzzle caches and some multis are obviously going to be difficult as it's not possible to access the page to read the information necessary to find the clues - although I think that was what you meant anyway. I have, I think, seen a couple of PM only Virtuals as well - there must be a good reason for them I suppose, possibly related to environmental sensitivity, although it does seem a bit odd (and I may have imagined them tbf). Beyond that it seems to be convenience related stuff as far as I can tell.

You might be better off putting this in the UK forum where folks will know what an OS map is a bit more reliably :-) I can't answer your question because I don't know, although if it's a product such as memory map then I suppose it might be possible.

Odd how I've had a good days use out of it then (on the odd occasion I've actually used any form of GPS device). Worth trying closing the app when you're not actually using it. Fwiw.

On the main map page, click on the GME 'i' icon, then click on the map where you want to start your route. Choose 'Measure Route' from the pop-up menu, and a marker will appear. Click again and choose 'Extend' to add more waypoints. Oooh, I didn't know you could do that :-) Thanks again btw. I think I'm still using an older version but it seems to work just fine for me. But it's an excellent tool which I really appreciate.

The free app gives you three, but the paid for app will give you all of them - iirc it's only a £6-7 isn't it? The geographical spread is interesting (and reminds me that I could use going back up Thetford way at some point...) - almost like it's someone who's been finding them for ages but not logging and who's suddenly gotten around to signing up and logging them.

Similarly the cache listing page that non-premium members get when they click on a blocked cache listing has the wording "...has chosen to make this cache listing visible to Premium Members only." (my emphasis). It then goes on to list the many and varied "benefits" of paid membership, although it doesn't, at any point, mention blocked cache listings - both paid members and basic members have a tick next to "View coordinates and location information for geocaches." Well, PMO does stand for Premium Members Only Is "PMO" an actual term in use though? It may well be - I tend to only use the maps to find caches and the key on that called them "Premium Member caches" which is pretty close to PMO I suppose. And it doesn't make any real difference imo anyway, although to some the "only" may be particularly significant I spose.

You can't say perfectly cromulent... Hands up who's off to google cromulent Cromulents are a bit like Shags aren't they?

Or will PMs who let their "membership" lapse have finds deleted? Or... - heck, the number of possible conflict situations is almost limitless here isn't it. Fwiw (for those who asked) the easiest way I find to log *any* cache is through the map view.

I wouldn't worry too much about it - my kids do that as well on the odd occasion they come out with me. They signed a bunch as Team Pander last year iirc. I've never been challenged on such things but could explain why there was an odd name if required.

Using the map view in the app you can save all the caches you currently have visible on the map in one go. Takes a while - wifi recommended!

The fact that it's a multi cache will make it less likely that I will look for it. This is simply because I rarely use a GPS of any kind so multi caches generally require multiple visits to a site. I do do this at times - and have on one occasion guessed a likely location from manual triangulation after gathering clues in the field. But in general if it's a multi I'm just less likely to do it. But if it looks good and doesn't have too many stages then I'd certainly go for it, especially if logs recommend it. It's great that you've stated how many stages there are btw - that's really helpful (we started one recently which seems to have about 7 stages and is a two hour drive away - shame we didn't know the number of stages until finding the first stage...).

1. Usually when I look at the cache details on the web, before I decide to go for the cache or not 2. I'll skim the description at least. Some have shed loads of info I don't want, but I'll skim for useful info at least 3. The most recent past logs, yes. I might skim through - I'll also check the number of didn't finds and might investigate if they all came in a clump or something. If I can't find a cache I will probably read all the logs back at the computer. All of this with the caveat that I rarely use any form of GPS so am relying on eyes. My phone is far too dumb to be able to access the interwebz either, so it all has to be done before I leave the house.

I found one today which did the same thing more or less. I think that was listed as a micro but it was very clear from the cache page that it was in a regular thing. Either that or not chosen is just fine for me.

Right next to a kids playground. I've been and looked at the location and left straight away. And on or in ivy on a historic and crumbling wall. You could see where the ivy had been pulled off by people looking.

Just to reinforce this, I found a micro yesterday which was advertised as a Medium - in a tree and all. I guess I was quite lucky to find it as I really was looking for a camp bag or something. Today someone else looked for it and recorded a DNF - it was the only one on the walk of 9 which was miles out in terms of cache size, although the coords seemed pretty sound to me. It's a new series with only three searchers so far, but this is the only DNF out of them - I'm thinking the unreliable cache size is part of the issue here. Fwiw if I do find one I disagree about the size over then I'll put it in my log. Always. So even if someone did tell porkys about the size of the container deliberately I reckon they'd be having to delete an awful lot of logs - which would go down not so well I imagine.

The number that I find in trees with thorns or thistles in makes me wonder whether a blood sacrifice isn't necessary for an awful lot of caches

Thanks for that Bruce - I thought I'd read that somewhere or other recently.

Fwiw I'm not entirely sure that apps tend to run in the background as such. Although that's technically possible it appears to be very rare indeed - instead they're just pre-loaded so as to open more quickly if they're in the background usually. Apparently. Unless I'm wrong, which is entirely possible.