Vertumnis

Did silversage03 get an official answer from Groundspeak? I only saw 'theories' posted. Can you get 2 (or more) souvenirs by finding only one cache?

Time flies. 3 emails and 2 weeks. I think the check was lost in the snail mail. I'll put a stop payment on the check later today and we'll go from there.

Yes, I see I am listed as a Premium Member here in the forums, but I am not, in geocaching.com and have no access to the benefits.

I became a premium member about mid December, 2005. When renewal came last month, I thought I'd wait until this month (Jan) and skip the holiday hassles and post office overloads. (Therefore the same situation would occur next time). I sent a check snail-mail to Groundspeak on Jan 4, 2007 (about 2-3 weeks after it expired) to renew my premium membership. (I also sent a check snail-mail in 2005). I have yet to hear ANYTHING from Groundspeak - no updated membership and no replies to 3 emails. No, the check has not been cashed, as of yesterday. A courteous reply would be nice to let me know if they are backed-up or if the check did not arrive, before I put a stop-payment on it. Lets see if this posting does any good.

How do I put my hat on my head?

To answer your question - no. The minimum distance between caches is .1 mile. It doesn't matter what the cache container is. The reason I didn't re-post the original quote is so some of you can hopefully scroll back through all the garbage and BS that's been posted. Most of the new generation cachers place a cache for convenience. It's too much of a problem to get a waterproof ammo box, fill it with items and hike out in the woods. (After all, there are snakes and animals and mud!) To justify this laziness, they make quotes to 'guidelines', 'your opinion' and spend more time posting here as opposed to... caching.

Thank you Polgara! Just let things as they are. With the popularity of the game, the PaSGC will probably set regulations as DCNR did - that's bad enough, it could be worse! When they finally try to decide what they should do about geocaches, they're going to look at the overall game and see all the WMD's and try to defend against THAT to protect their forest's. Wal-Mart Driveups.

Not unnecessarily. Sometimes there is a problem cache that needs a close eye by the community. I'm trying to think of a situation where there is a 'problem' cache, that shouldn't be removed (or relocated). If there is ANY problem... it is hurting the game of geocaching, creating a bad image to the public, is no fun searching for, muggled, negatively impacting the environment, eyesore, whatever. You people out there want to place a cache SO badly, that you will do anything to make it happen. Including jeopardizing the game. No matter how bad the location is or how many minor problems it creates you have to come up with some excuse, make a new rule, argue with the reviewers, or start another thread to justify your actions. I'm starting to rant and going off subject of the thread but I'm not off the subject of the overall game. Do a profile so I don't have to reply and participate in a flame war, because I won't.

Good OR bad? If they are all watching because it's bad, the cache should be removed. But that's a moot statement since you don't know. Interest in the cache shows up in the LOGS... good or bad. How many are watching is just an ego boost. You don't know who they are, where they are or why they are.

Caching is for everyone. Children, elderly, handicapped. Micros have their place, children need to be kept safe. There are also cachers who like 5 mile hikes in the woods and don't need icons, smilies and pictures! This new geocaching generation doesn't seem to understand that. You have the right to do any cache you want. You also have the responsibility to prepare yourself before heading out, other than just blindly downloading coord's to your GPSr. Part of geocaching is READING THE CACHE PAGE... ALL of it! You don't HAVE to do the cache if your not comfortable with the written description. If you're not sure where you will be going, LOOK AT A MAP! There are 9 links listed on the cache page to map sites - there's also TOPO! MapSource and others. Will it be difficult? LOOK. Little stars for difficulty and terrain. Some cachers just need a page with the coord's, a good description and the logs. Part of the fun is figuring out just what the cache is all about. Part of the fun is finding and seeing new things and places. For some, bears, wolves, snakes, bugs, briers, mud and other nasty things ARE part of the fun - whether we were told about them in advance or not. Airports? Strollers? Playgrounds? Mosquitoes? Other bugs??? How about an icon that just says WUSS. It's soon time to divide Geocaching.com in to 2 different sections. One section for the macadam parking lot caches, with pictures, and the second section for the mountain caches, with just the bare facts (pun intended). There are enough icons. If you can't figure out what you're getting into by reading, stay at home.

After seeing Keystone’s post about 450 miles from your home coord’s, it makes me ask, “Where’s your common sense?” Lets say someone 450 miles from your caching area wants to place a cache near their house. You may now have taken away their spot. What if you found a great spot, close to your home, to place a cache and then found out that someone in California had already placed one there! The reviewers could take 30 minutes to publish - yours here, and theirs there - instead of 8 days trying to figure out - why yours is there and theirs is here. Yes, there could be extenuating circumstances. It could be a great cache. You could have a good reason for doing it that way. If that’s the case, then you didn’t give enough explanation and reasoning to the reviewer to move things along in a timely manner. Why do reviewers take so long to publish a cache? Ahh, you ?

Another: GCTD05 Iron Valley II - #4 The Turkey Trail

It looks like March 24 was the start and the end of this thread. A question was asked. Calls to the PGC were made. The Regional office of the PGC stated that geocaching was legal and no special permissions are required. The cache in question was placed on March 30 by lynie and approved (sorry… published) on April 1 by Keystone. Good job, people! All that in just 7 postings. Done. Now lets move on to how these threads go off on a tangent for 30 more postings. PaSGL may be technically private, but pertaining to this thread they are public! ATV’s, snowmobiles, horses, bicycles, hikers, walkers, photographers, bird watchers, joggers, berry pickers, and on, and on… may not be hunters or propagating wildlife, but they are allowed on PaSGL. PaSGL are open to the public. There is hunting on Sundays. No, I don’t think the PGC WAS aware of geocaching! Maybe the workers were, maybe the WCO’s were - but the top dogs who make the rules and regulations, (remember those? It’s what the thread was about) sitting in Harrisburg probably didn’t know the game existed - until now. Place your cache that it won’t interfere with the wildlife beds or a potential hunter’s deer stand. If you’re not a hunter (what the main intent the lands are for, and purchased by same) and can’t recognize these types of locations, go place a micro in the mall. I don’t think sensible, logical cachers, using common sense are going to jeopardize geocaching on SGL - in the near future. My previous posting on the 13th was sarcasm - I didn’t need an explanation - yes, I went off on a tangent. I don’t really care that you are a Hunting Instructor. I don’t care if they charge a fee for fishing on a lake. My concern was to get this subject over with as soon as possible. Now I’m a hypocrite for even posting this.

Signing on to the forums to read some serious geocaching information and seeing threads like this one.

At this time... SGL are private? SGL require permission?

Thanks to the last two postings, I found the third section of the window buried at the top. Now when I open THAT file, all three windows are there, but when I open other new files, only 2 windows are there and I have to open the third - which is no problem now that I know where it's hiding. Belleauwood, to answer your question, yes, it did just start happening about a month ago. Before that, I could always see the waypoints upon opening a file without moving any sections. Topografix - thanks for the replies and the help!!

I have the same problem (Windows 98). The strange thing is that the waypoints are THERE! You can't see them, change them, highlight them or edit them. When you click on the send button (to the GPSr), there is a checkmark at "Waypoints (5/1000)". Click OK and they DO download - they ARE in the GPSr - and everything works fine. They just don't show up visually in the EasyGPS program. Three windows?? I see 2 windows. One is the main, titled "EasyGPS". When I open a file, it appears inside the main window and is split in two - horizontally - but there is NO TEXT in the window.