Cache! Eh?

I think you will find that verifying finds of caches is the responsibility of cache owners, and not Groundspeak.

On Windows 7, with both Chrome 19.0.1084.52 and Internet Explorer 9. Using the same name / password combination, entering user name in user name field, password in password field then selecting Sign In button: 1) Sign in is rejected from Welcome Visitor > Sign In link at https://www.geocaching.com/default.aspx 2) Sign in is accepted from https://www.geocaching.com/login/default.aspx?RESETCOMPLETE=Y&redir=http%3a%2f%2fwww.geocaching.com%2fdefault.aspx%3f This is 100% reproducible, I have attempted both in excess of 20 times each. Password is 30 characters length, with no unusual characters. Further investigation shows that this bug can be reproduced with passwords from 26 to 30 characters in length. I assume that this will also be the case for passwords longer than 30 characters. I cannot reproduce the bug using passwords of 25 characters or less. 3) I note that the password change form https://www.geocaching.com/my/password.aspx allows passwords greater in length than 25 characters to be submitted whilst not displaying any more than 25 dots. This is the case for all 3 fields. I am wondering whether the password field in 1) above will not accept any more than 25 characters, whilst the password field in 2) above does. (amended to give more details)

An as yet unsolved one with 70 watchers here! GC3APCH blank?????

Thankfully it's back up now.

Looks like geocheck.org is down yet again.

It certainly is! Many thanks.

I am unable to access MAGIC MapIt at the moment. Does anyone know if it has been down for a while? Thanks.

Perhaps people are appreciative of Groundspeak's efforts to promote geocaching and wish to assist them in those endeavors. Groundspeak considers armchair caching "Found It" logs to be "bogus" finds. According to MissJenn, from Groundspeak: "Stating that you must visit the location is not necessary as this is an implicit requirement..." I agree, but my point is that its none of anyone's business unless you are Groundspeak, the CO or the person doing it. Or the person who is mislead into looking for a recently "found" cache that has been missing for six months. Armchair logging does affect others.

Um, minor detail, you have GC4E stated as never found, when actually it was found 3 times. A photo of the log book is down towards the bottom of the page in the link, together with the story of England's First stash. A lot of logs of early caches don't seem to be shown on Groundspeak. GC4E England's First! And over here we're quite proud of this one, to the point of erecting this:

If I were concerned about spoilers in those movies, I would go out and watch the movies. Otherwise I might risk having heard it at work, gym, news, some other pop culture medium etc. I say watch the movies ASAP and stop waiting! Btw at the end of the original planet of the apes, you see the statue of liberty and find out it WAS earth all along! Arrrrrrgh! Just about to watch this for the first time.

Thanks for the reply. It isn't immediately obvious to me what cooperation is or has been necessary to find this cache. Perhaps you could clarify this? Thanks!

I am aware of a few collaborative or cooperative caches that have been placed, where a number of cachers need to make guesses or take other actions before there is enough information available to solve a puzzle cache. I have bookmarked those that I know of: Cooperative caches Are there any others out there that forum readers have come across? I am interested in placing some, and already have some new ideas. I'd like to see what other ways cache setters have used to allow a number of cachers to take part in revealing hidden cache details. Also, are there any other types of cooperative caches that people have come across?

so you didn't spot the cache in my pic.... Not true. Armchair loggers who "find" a cache that has gone missing and have several DNFs logged can cause confusion and a lot of wasted time. I find this very frustrating, and they are also cheating me. The only way to be certain that a cache has been found is for the log to be signed. My reply to ArcadiaExeter was highlighting problems that can arise with armchair loggers (people that log finds without leaving home), which are a different case. I don't think anyone is suggesting that this is what you are doing.

How do you know that it was the cache, and not a dummy with a note saying "NOT HERE inside"? A number of cache owners are very fond of doing this! Did you see a label with the cache name and GC number? It is not unknown for people to leave throwdowns, and near where I live there have been caches hidden by more than one person at the same location. Unless you open the container, you can't be sure. When you have opened it, and read the name of the cache on the log, then you may as well sign it.

Not true. Armchair loggers who "find" a cache that has gone missing and have several DNFs logged can cause confusion and a lot of wasted time. I find this very frustrating, and they are also cheating me. The only way to be certain that a cache has been found is for the log to be signed.

Talk about an overreaction to being asked to check on his cache.

Aaaaaaaaaaah! The penny drops! :D :D Must go back and look at a lot more puzzles in progress!

Where are the puzzle details published?

Congratulations to Eclimber on his 1000th find today! I was thrilled when he decided to go for my first extreme cache, and got the FTF on it! Stane Street - jjqx fy dtzw mjjqx

As a finder, this has caused me to waste a lot of time and effort. If the last 5 log entries are 4 DNFs followed by 1 Found, I shouldn't have to look up the latest finders posting history to try and work out if they were bulls***ting.

Hi Miles, may I have 10 please? I have a Sidetracked series coming on.

They don't come much nicer than this one! The Winchester Geese

You moved away from me, to where I moved from not long ago! Are my hides really that bad???

I already have GPS Status downloaded. How exactly do you use it to calibrate your signal? I played around with it this morning while I was out searching for a cache. I couldn't get anywhere. Also, my GPS signal seemed to be off a bit today. It gave me incorrect coords for the 4 caches I've found today. It was anywhere from a couple of meters off to one where it was 25 meters away. Any tips for correcting this? Would I need to contact my carrier? A couple of metres sounds pretty accurate to me. If you're 25 metres out, I'd check that C:Geo is logged in (a good thing to do every time you use it), it seems to get logged out rather often, which results in the co-ordinates being deliberately made vague by the Geocaching website.

Time to start a sweepstake on how soon someone starts lobbying for finds to count per container rather than per cache.