CatwomanLinda

But 12 months ago in the same topic In this Post she states So the second post is contradicted by the first post! Also the email address in her profile lburch at firetacks .com would indicate that she is Linda Kistler Burch President, WildTech Corporation Which manufactures Fire Tacks. Linda I'm making a complaint directly to Groundspeak about your activities in this forum. As your actively promoting your own company's products in this forum. And at the same time hidding your agenda and identity as the President of the company manufacturing the Product your promoting. Deceangi =============== Hi again, I honestly am not trying to promote. People can choose what they want for nighttime navigation - that is the American way! I have many venues where I do promote, and this is not one of them. But anyway... I would like to respond to the supposed contradiction noted above. Part of the R&D I did 15 years ago in developing products, was to discuss safety, forestry and ethical issues with those trained in such matters, as I/we developed a business plan, etc. I was blessed to have a couple of experts, scientists and a college professor, yes, who took me under their wing back then, to advise in the business start up. Since then, I often have fellow business people, professionals in my insdustry, etc., email or call me with a heads up if they think there is something out there that isn't quite correct. I do the same if I see questionable info with their products, patents, trademarks or copyrights. We all watch each other's backs. That is what led me to the posts here in the first place... last summer. When I saw the Northern Trust comments... I naturally first felt defensive for obvious reasons.... I thought I had R&D'd that issue beyond reproach. I then thought... if true, I'd be a fool to refute things that are factual and I'd best face the facts and/or redesign, etc. etc. I did write the article I referenced. Research takes time and finding experts takes time. It has just started posting in various places this month. Besides tree damage issues, friends have alterted me to patent, trademark and copyright infringement, or when copyrighted articles I write are pirated for whatever profit use that might not be by my permission or kosher, etc. I apologise to all here if I seemed to be promoting. I would like to freedom, if possible, to post here sometimes though... without seeming like I'm up to something. I first found out about Groundspeak and these bulletin boards, from people posting here many years ago, and was as I said, directed here by a friend who was concerned, last summer. Lastly, I am a landowner myslef, and whoever owns the land calls the shots, bottom line. Linda

FireTacks are re-usable and last over ten years if left out year round... sticky back scrap from dumpsters is not re-usable, and would require multiple visits to scavange for more scrap. Using a commerical marker does not require dumpster diving from construction work zones where, perish the thought, you might step on a nail, get arrested for tresspassing, contract some chemical or bacteria induced illness from waste products, or worse.

Hello, I was made aware of this discussion by a college professor friend of mine. What he, and what I would be curious to know is, where out there is any scientific proof, or study, or evidence or validation, that a tiny trail marker with a tiny pin causes damage? I see where "experts" site this damage or that damage, like Woodland Trust making statements - but what is the veracity of the statements? Where are the references to studies proving the statements? Statements that cannot be quantified empirically or scientifically, are opinions and not fact. Those opinions might be more aesthetic than scientific, and that's okay. But, drawing parallels between nails, and the tiny pins of a thumb tack is a big jump. While I respect those who are experts in their fields, when information is cited as fact, and I cannot find supporting proof or scientific study or information from those who are equally or more expert than those making the statements, my curious mind wants to know. The truth is the truth regardless - but this issue is not religion where what you feel in your heart and what you have between yourself and God in your own truth. The truth and proof of tree damage from a small trailer marker should be out there somewhere, yet it can't be found. If it's out there... please direct me to it. thank you.

I am writing an article about this subject having done some research on it. I would agree with your statement about the Salvation Army parallel. I have talked to a number of professors and forestry experts about this already, and while nails in trees, or girdling from animals certainoly can kill trees, the placement of a tack marker, I am told so far, does not. In fact, much research is done worldwide using such trail markers to study nocturnal animal behavior and such, because they do not cause damage. I will note a link to the article when it is compete, most like early fall 2009. CWL