Thank you Bill93. I tried all those options already, including the "Can't find my Benchmark in the Data Base" topic, (I stumbled on it somewhere). Just trying to see if anybody had anymore ideas other than whats already here. I could just stumble into the file room onsite and thumb through the blueprints, system charts, and land survey charts, but then I would have to explain to my super. why I had a need to go in there.....