GeoElmo6000

I agree. I'm wondering if part of the thought process was that Groundspeak had a player base to jump start their new game, but now it's too late to separate it out into something separate. There would be a lot of people upset if Groundspeak announced that the two games would be made separate including their find counts.

I keep saying this but Adventures are really a separate location-based game than geocaching, the game just happens to have been made by Groundspeak as well. I think part of the issue is that they combined the find count so that confuses things. Two games with one find count. But at this point they can't really separate the find counts even though I'd love to see that happen.

Because they're not geocaches.

It would be nice if the message is "This is an advanced geocache. You must be a premium member to view advanced geocaches using the app, or you may view it with your basic member status using the geocaching.com website."

Geocaching is free, but it's not, so geocaching could be unaffordable to people at different levels. I've seen people complain about $30 per year for Premium Membership, and that's a legit cost that some people can't afford. But then again, Premium membership is not required to play. But some sort of GPS receiver is. Handheld GPS receivers are quite expensive, I only bought my first one because I found it on clearance for $40, and my newer one I got for free. If not using a GPS receiver, a smartphone is required, and they are definitely required for lab caches as handheld GPSr's don't work with them. It seems that everyone has a smartphone but they're a legit cost, I mean they're more expensive than handheld GPS receivers though they're less specialized. My point is that while geocaching is free, there are a lot of costs involved that we can take for granted.

We had this issue locally, a T5 CITO event that was a paddle CITO to clean a river. But since you can't put a waypoint on a river since it's moving water, the meeting point was at the launch. So someone showed up at the specified time at the specified coordinates and signed the log, said hi to some people, and left. The event owner kept deleting the log and the attendee kept putting it back. The next time the owner had a CITO they put the meeting point on an island I believe.

I had a cache on the top of a lamppost; I originally submitted it as a high difficulty and easy (1.5) terrain, since I placed the cache with my feet on the ground with a painting pole extension thing with a grabber duct taped on. Reviewer made me change it to T5 (special equipment necessary) and D1.5 (easy to find). So people got credit for a T5 cache. That irked me a bit. Photos below including some creative retrievals; I was happy to see the spoiler photos because they were so much fun. https://www.geocaching.com/seek/gallery.aspx?guid=c12103a5-f61d-4123-a2ae-ac9bcd02dfd3

I treat my statistics like I treat my souvenirs. They're on my ignore list.

Normally the mighty who fail in this game place throwdowns and claim the find.

2023 Goals update... Originally my only goals were to get one year 2000 Jasmer cache (The Spot) and get my film entry in this year's GIFF. Recently I started looking at my Jasmer grid, something I never actively worked on and haven't finished, and realized I have 26 months to fill in pre-2023: 5 from the year 2000 9 from the years 2001-2006 (combined) 12 from the years 2015-2022 (combined) For the year 2000 I'd need to make a trip to upstate NY and western PA to get two of the months, and also fly to GA to get the other three. I'll file those under "stretch goals" even now. For the years 2001-2006 I found 9 relatively easily accessible caches within 90 minutes of my house, so I decided to make this my primary 2023 goal. I already found one from February 2004 this past weekend, so eight to go. For the years 2015-2022 I have a lot more to choose from but I'm going to make it my goal to fill these in as well. So - hopefully! - by the end of this year I'll have all the months since the year 2001 filled in, and - maybe! - I can pick up the year 2000 months as well. And hopefully my film entry still makes it into GIFF :-). It's fun to have a goal.

Feel the burn!

Funny, I just visited this place during Christmas.

Agreed, and that's pretty much how it's advertised. The OP asked about "condensed" and this is pretty condensed! That's also why I said...

I prefer nano caches. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Not really.

How's this in southern CT? Condensed enough? For numbers cachers.

Rude much?

I was at the 2013 Block Party and found the HQ cache and the following day the APE cache replacement (that was when the original was missing, so I still don't have the APE icon sadly). It's a beautiful drive to Iron Horse State Park and the walk through the two mile pitch dark former train tunnel. If you have a bike it's faster but it's a great hike. The next day I drove, by myself, from Seattle to the Original Stash, signed the log, took some pics, then drove to Mount St. Helens, then back to Seattle. 8 hours of driving that day by myself for two caches but it was one of my favorite geocaching experiences. Enjoy the adventure!

As the OP, I can tell you that's not my intention with suggesting this time penalty for multiple choice answers. My only intention is to give the finder motivation to discover the information the lab cache creator wanted them to find.

My suggestion is for multiple choice answers only, per the thread title.

I answered these questions when you asked them already.

It's not about my gain, it's about improving the way multiple choice answer lab caches work. As a cache owner and adventure owner I know that work goes into setting up caches and labs. The intention of the adventure owner is to pass along some information to the finder. With text based lab cache answers, the answer has to be written correctly in order to complete the lab, so the finder needs to take some effort to get that information. With multiple choice based lab caches, the answer can be guessed in four or less taps on the screen in one second when the finder is within range of unlocking the lab cache. There are several adventures near me where people reported not even needing to leave their vehicles because they could answer the questions from their vehicles, even though the answers weren't visible from the street. In my opinion the spirit of what the lab cache is intended to accomplish would be better with a small penalty for a wrong multiple choice answer, my reasoning being that may give the finder a little more motivation to actually find the answer if they're waiting some time for the question to unlock itself again. I don't expect you to agree with me but those are my answers to your questions.

So the lab accepted an answer, but it wasn't correct for the question.

I was only talking about multiple choice questions. You can just tap all the answers without reading the question within one second and get the right answer. How is that even possible? Are you sure you didn't tap the correct answer? Unless, for example, someone put in two answers and selected the third as the correct answer. But I'd hope that the UI would catch that or at least display a blank answer.

I agree with all your points, and I'll add one: lab caches don't have location properties. So in my recent layover in a new country, I couldn't find a lab cache and earn a new souvenir. I explain Adventures this way: it's a location-based game created by Groundspeak but it's not geocaching. The fact that GCHQ combines the find count confuses this matter. You'll never see GCHQ say Adventures and geocaches are the same. A quick scroll through the geocaching blog: "Another year of geocaching is over and what a year it was. 2022 was full of new geocaches and Adventures" "Start seeing how many nearby caches you can find and you might be surprised how much walking distance you can cover on a geocache or Adventure outing." and so on.

Well you're in luck because 1500 cache finds plus 100 ALs won't mess up your 2000th cache. It might mess up your 1600th cache though. ETA oh are you implying 5x100 for the 5 stages of an Adventure? I think the terminology is messing me up, because the "container" is an Adventure and the individual components are lab caches. So by calling them ALs it's sort of a misnomer on Geocaching HQ's part.