RUFFLEDOSTRICH

I'll be in Corrolla Lite for the next week and plan to sneak in a few caches (NO KIDS ON THIS VACATION...YEAH!!!) JediMTP and I plan to get the few caches on the island, but are there any nearby that are MUST DO?

You mean men cache too??????

Jack Black...even if you DNFed, the boy would crack you up.

I'm one that has specific grammar pet peeves in speech. Good instead of well drives me insane. I'm also a big fan of the adverb...just say badly instead of bad...PLEASE!!! In typing, it doesn't bother me. BUTT... I've noticed that there are some people that are noticeably (noticably?...I'm self-conscious in this thread) functionaly illiterate as well as cachers. It's neat to see that their drive to cache and log caches has also improved their ability to read/write over the course of the months. We always think of encouraging the outdoor element, but forget about the other things that geocaching encourages like finally motivating someone to learn to read/write good (just kidding...well). On another similar note, I was anti-computer (couldn't turn one on for the life of me) until I found the motivation to look up and log a cache. Now, I've moved all of my communication to the internet. Even my Brownie troop runs paperless now because of geocaching. I guess what I'm saying is that, while I notice grammar and spelling issues (and other people notice mine), lighten up on those and look at what we're motivating here.

Don't worry. No matter how outgoing people seem in the forums/local boards/logs, you'll get to the event and realize that most people are really quiet and just sit in the group they came with quietly until someone loud shows up (oh...am I the loud one? Oops.) You should fit right in. At least that's how the events operate south of Pittsburgh in my limited experience.

Wether or not extra logging requirements should exhist as a requirement (I'm somewhere in the middle), wasn't the original intention of this thread something else? Wasn't it something to the effect of, "These caches DO exhist. How can avoid downloading one listed as a regular that once I get home to log it, I find that I needed to juggle hamsters AND take a pic?" There's a difference betweeen asking someone to write in verse which CAN be done after the fact then telling someone once they get home from the vacation that they didn't complete all the cache requirements. If there was another way to filter out these things, the shoulds can cache them and shouldn'ts can filter them out and the shoulds that are going on a power caching vacation won't waste their time when that's not the objective.

Don't we say in the info sheets we put in caches for muggles that accidentally come upon a cache that they can feel free to come on GC and log the cache? If you found it, you found it. A cache owner shouldn't be able to control a find count. A find count is personal to each cacher. If they feel they found it, the hider shouldn't be able to discredit that. I once found a cache that was the end of a cache series by accident while scouting a place to plant. The whole idea of the series was to collect parts of the coordinates in the micros throughout the city. I hadn't found any of the micros yet, but logged the end mystery cache (which fortunately was listed that way). My log was promptly deleted. I wasn't allowed to actually find the cache until I found the whole micro series apparently. Granted, this is what got me into micros when I thought a bout in the woods was all I was into. But this is almost what made me quit geocaching almost before I begun because I was infuriated about the polotics in a sport that I deemed something I could do without having to deal with people. Ha! (This also ended up being a great cache series and now I'm friends with the owner. Go figure.) My deal is that maybe the cache owner shouldn't have SUCH totelitarian dictation over logging. They should be able to delete offensive text, but not the smiley. As for these juggling after you hunted and found and SLed? It's fun, but why not just make it a fun option? I have a cache that SUGGESTS making a tall tale about the use of a strange structure, but I certainly haven't deleted those logs that didn't participate in the story part. If you SL, you should be able to log it. What's to stop someone from deleting ALL find logs just because they don't like another cacher? MUST INCLUDE A PAINFUL DEATH EXPERIENCE IN A LOG? You've GOT to be kidding me. "I will deny you of your smiley if you don't share your frownie feelings"?????????...is that the deal? C'mon now.

There has to be one person in the relationship that doesn't cache. The girl just so happens to be the cacher in this one.

I LOVE that story. Very cool. I'm rooting for her to get one too.

I can totally picture finding that cache with my teo-year-old and then at our next cache visit watching him anxiously pulling down his diaper to contribute his newley found idea of a "trade-item"! That's horrible...so why can't I stop giggling!?

Your coords are probably fine. Personally, I like to go backe a week after I get coords to double check the coords before I submit them to the approver. Still, I've gotten coords that are dead-on and up to 80 feet off using this method. Some people average coords as I do (take 10 readings, drop the 2 most extreme readings and average the rest). Also, your parking coords aren't as important as the cache coords. They'll get the idea if they're 80 feet off. As long as the cache coords are dead-on, you'll be fine. I have ten hides that get found often. I've never used mapping and my coords have generally been on. One has been 40 feet off and the FTF gave me better coords which I ended up posting. Hope this helps. BTW, people who say they "can't get back soon" generally leave caches unattended and/or disabled for MONTHS at a time. I think the previous posters may have thought that;s what you meant. A week is no biggie.

As a caching mommy with caching kids, I get around fine in an ancient caching mini-van...when it runs. I guess the caching off-roading wasn't such a good idea;) Hey, it's better than using it just for the grocery store...unless there's a micro in the parking lot.

This was my first winter caching and after the first big snow decided to archive (probably a hastey move) a cache that was enjoyable in the non snowy season, but truly unsearchable in the winter. I couldn't even find it!!! In retrospect, I should have disabled it in the snow. That's part of cache maintenance, right? Also, I could've used the icon for "not available in the winter". After all, there are caches that are underwater and ice-bound in the winter. I didn't see any of them found, but I didn't see them DNFed or diasbled in the winter either. They just included the icon in the cache description.

While it probably is a freak incident, it's good that we be aware of it. If a cacher is out there that can't get rid of something they think is pneumonia, this is good info to know. I'm not going to change my caching habits, but I thank the initial poster for making me aware.

There are a few people in EVERY area that are like this and cache like this. Hopefully he's the only one in yours and you can put that cache on your ignore list and move on. Sometimes leaving it alone is the best thing to do. After all, with the immaturity level this person has aleady represented, it's probably not a good idea to single yourself out since you don't want this cacher to start harassing you specifically which DOES happen sadly enough. Unfortunately it IS what you can expect in this sport from VERY few, but VERY vocal people. As a cacher I would hate for a person who was just getting started to think that kind of behavior represented all cachers. BTW, thank you for your service to this country. MOST cachers are very respectful.

I had a cache called "Don't Feed Cheese to Man-Eating Port-O-Potties". It was two evil micros in a park and then a final with a view after a bushwack in the woods. People DNFed on the first micro quite a few times and they kept trying to look for a clue in the name of the cache. Truth is, the name was nonsense

I really want to dangle an ammo can out of my second story window. I'd watch most people try to retrieve it "pshycho urban micro style" with ladders etc...while all they had to do was knock on my door and I'd let them go upstairs and open the window to get it. I have kids in the house and am a firm believer in home-base annonimity so I can't take the risk, but how funny would that be?

There's the best idea I've heard yet.

Forgot to mention the whole "I won't eat my cereal unless you hide the bowl" and "I won't get dressed unless I have to cache for the pieces of my outfit." thing. That's really fun...unless you're in a hurry!

My four year old daughter (smileyfacecacher) and two year old son (pierogie) have their own accounts. They love to cache, but I too have gotten the "no go caching" from, them after a string of micros (I love them, but there aren't toys after all) or a string of DNFs (again...no new toys). Smileyfacecacher has (without solicitation by me) taken the cache she stocked herself into pre-school to "show and tell" them how they too can get free new toys everyday. Pierogie just thinks it's great that he's not only allowed to get muddy, but encouraged to do so. I've also been impressed with the terrain they can plow over. Can you tell I'm a proud Momma?

The logs MUST be entertaining. I agree. When I first started there were people that I really wanted to run into on a cache hunt or couldn't wait until they found one of my caches based on their logs or posts. I guess they were sort of my "celebrity cachers".

Not at hiding them...The cache I DNFed 4 times in five days wasn't just hidden by anybody

Unbelieveable ... what some people do for kicks. I wish someone would steal me and take me to London. We used to exchange neighbors lawn ornaments, get drunk, and then wait hidden nearby for the people to get their morning paper. People would have the best figuring-this-out-is-far-more-than-my-pre-caffinated-brain-can-take looks. That's good stuff when you're in high school. BTW, I would like to go on record by saying that I do not have any lawn gnomes, but wish I did. I'm a lawn gnome having wannabe.

Considering you're in Washington and I'm in Pennsylvania, I'll have to go with no. Distance can be overcome, but considering the SuperBowl, I don't think the Steelers fans will let me back into my state if I go to SeaHawk country

I generally cache with pierogie and smileyfacecacher. They've often found things when I can't and asked me to double check my coords when they ended up being off. That wouldn't be funny except for the fact that they're two and four years old. If I'm ever in SC, I'll e-mail you so that we can go DNFing together.