emabie

I disagree, I think the "power trails" have there places. I have been going caching with my 5 year old and his cousin who is 6 with a heart defect. They can't hike that far, typically 2 miles or so. The 2 of them have been having so much fun geocaching on trails where they can hike through the woods and find several (or more) caches in one trip. They are always asking to go out and treasure hunt, this is so much better than playing video games and gets them into the sport. If you dont like a cache dont go find it. There is more to caching than numbers, and the "power trails" have been more than numbers to me and my kids. I agree the hides should be unique and not all under similar "pile of sticks", even if the container type is the for all of them the SWAG is different enough to keep the kids interested. I dont care much for the SWAG myself, i just do a TNLNSL. And i suspect anyone else who is just looking to sign the log then they would not really care if the containers are all the same. Just please maintain them and be clever with the hides.

True that the ratings are subjective but the OP had asked what we would rate this cache and the majority here say a 4/4 is to high.

I agree with this. I almost never take or leave anything myself. It's the kids that get excited about the SWAG. The monetary value of it is not relevant to them, they see a cool "cracker" toy or even a McD toy that they want they are happy. I always put something of = or better value in, though value can be subjective to some.

Why would the hiding spot and the fact you need a tool to get it be related to the terrain? A 2 to me would be a short path down a trail or paved path. Not something I can drive up to. There is an option to say handicapped accessible or not, I thank thats would be wehre you take into account the height of the hide.

I always look at the Terrain rating as applying to the path to get to the cache. The Difficulty rating comes into play with the hide. How tough is the cache to find, how tough to retrieve the cache from it's hiding spot. Any cache in a parking lot or roadside that can be driven up to should get a 1 for terrain. The hide on these nano and micros usually is what gets a higher rating. I would give this one a 2 for difficulty and 1 for terrain.

I just got the Oregon 450t myself. Its a great handheld and it seems to be very accurate. But as the others have stated its only going to get you within about 15' of the cashe. I too cant wait for some snow to melt. I have been to a few spots where I know that the cashe is there, just 4' below me under the snow.

As someone who is very new to geocashing I think the parking lot ones can be fun to find with the kids. I agree I did get interested in this sport to get me outside in the woods and trails more but I think there is a place for the grab and go cashes. Is there a way to filter them out of your search results?