Jezebel1967

If I were comfortable enough to go geocaching alone, then maybe I would be more open to the idea of paying the $30 for the premium membership. Being severely directionally challenged enough to require a navigational system, I don't think wandering around in the desert and even in out of town places is a good idea for me. I prefer to be with my husband or with other geocachers for my own personal safety, and since I am with my husband for 99% of the time I spend geocaching, I don't feel I need a premium membership. In addition to that, as anyone from Las Vegas will attest, the unemployment rate in the state of NV is over 10% right now. I myself have been out of work since I was laid off in August of 2008. Although I am actively looking for work, while I am out of work, my family is included in those people who have to watch what and where we spend our money. Having two paid memberships would not break us, per se, but I don't see the need to spend money on memberships when there are bills to pay, and children to clothe, shoe and feed. I simply don't feel it appropriate for people to be insulting and degrading simply because I have physical issues. I am proud of my progress, and I know several other cachers that I hang out with who have also overcome physical difficulties in the name of geocaching. No one is asking for pity or sympathy.

Thanks for doing so much research on my behalf. I have decided to simply not log the cache, and I have asked my husband to verify that any caches he downloads into the GPS not be Subscriber Only until there is a "Family Plan" readily available. I figure, if I can't log them, then why bother visiting them? I do understand your points, and agree with some of them. However, what if I had found the cache without my husband? Then it would still be an exclusionary cache, and none of the caches that we have placed have been Members Only because I don't believe in them. We cache for the thrill of the hunt, the comraderie of caching with friends, to spend quality time with each other and our children with out having to deal with the television, computers, etc., and for the fresh air, sunshine, and the exercise. Again, thanks anyway. Happy Caching!

Please note that I did go back and rephrase my response. I find it really annoying that some people are just insulting and rude, and there is no need for that. We're all supposed to be in it for the same reasons, and I simply do not understand how some people can be as nice as the people I usually cache with, and some people can be so ugly and nasty about the whole thing. My husband and I are not snobbish people, we try to get along with everyone, and this TeamSeekAndWeShallFind person/team or whatever was very insulting, which I felt unnecessary.

Wow, thanks for your concern. FYI, I have a clotting problem that causes DVT's in my legs, which makes it physically painful to walk even a fair distance. I would hate to think of what would happen if someone caching with you broke a leg. I was not asking for sympathy, I just think that if you want to an elitist group, then don't advertise and don't encourage "non-members" to participate. I happen to enjoy geocaching with my husband, and I feel that if we are a married couple caching together, then we should BOTH be allowed to log a cache. Subscriber Only caches are exclusional, which I feel is unfair to the rest of us, especially those of us with chilren who only go out with us occasionally. There is absolutely no need for you to be insulting and rude, as I have done/said nothing to you or about you that would warrant this behavior. Thankfully, the geocachers in my area are not that rude and insensitive.

I'm going to have JeromyL (my other half) look into it, since he is a paid subscriber and I don't want to be pushy. Perhaps it can be done as a courtesy that way, and it can be lifted long enough for me to log it and then it can just be reinstated as a Subscriber Only cache if the owner thinks it really needs to be one. It's one of about 25 or so caches along the same stretch of road at fairly regular intervals, and since the road is the Old Well Road, they all have the word "Well" in the cache title. It just kind of sticks out like a sore thumb that it is the only SO cache on the whole road.

I'm sorry, but despite what Keystone posted, discussions about staying on topic are only allowed on Fridays... ... I'm hoping to get back to Vegas for a visit sometime this year. We'll see! Fab! Let us know, and we'll all hook up and do some power caching and catch up. xoxox

Hmph. Hogwash. Poppycock. Balderdash. Blarney. Nonsense. Claptrap. My only excuse is that I have ADD, and find it extremely difficult to remain on topic with so many distractions. So there.

Well. I have never been a subscriber or sub anything in my entire life. Many thanks to Starbrand for the information. I will have JeromyL look into that. However, I want to be able to log the cache legally, and not step on anyone else's toes. If I am married to the subscriber, then I do not feel I am "playing on his dime". Especially not if I do just as much walking and hunting as he does. Nevada is a Community Property state, and if creditors can come after me for his debt and vice versa, then it should be quid pro quo for logging caches as well. Sioneva, I thought you had passed on to the Great CITO Event in the Sky!!!!! No, haven't Geonapped anyone recently, although JeromyL, MaggieL and I along with our dog Lily were held hostage and forced to Geocache all day long a couple of weekends ago by a really nice guy from out of state who showed up at one of our notorious breakfast events. Tit for Tat, I guess, LOL I miss you. Remember, no matter how much it hurt when you abandoned us out here in the desert, we still love you and you can still come home, just don't bring the cops. :-) Oh yeah. Before I forget. Perhaps it would be helpful if the forum schedule with a full list of allowed topics organized by day/date/time etc. could be posted on the Groundspeak Home Page for those of us who are innocently violating the rules.

There's a schedule for discussing forum topics? Seriously?

I recently spent the entire day hiking around the desert (first time I have been physically able to in a long time) with Jam3s, JeromyL, MaggieL and Lily, our geo-dog. I was able to log all of the Well caches that we hit on Well Road, except 1, specifically GC1GA37 "Well, ok, just one more" which is a suscriber cache. I have some questions about this. 1) Are we still doing suscriber only caches, 2) If my husband is a paid suscriber, and I am with him, shouldn't I be allowed to log it too? 3) Is it fair to require both husband and wife, as well as any children that they may have who are also geocaching, individually be paid suscribers? That's a lot of money for some of us, especially now that the economy has gone to Hades. I don't think it's fair that I did the hiking, signed the log, and am still not allowed to log this caches even though my husband is allowed to. Is there a way to fix this situation that is fair to everyone? I understand that some caches are very expensive to maintain, but honestly, I didn't think that this one merited that status. Just my opinion.