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It is even better in person!

As long as you talk about the geophysical aspects. What are they made of? How were they formed? What erosional processes are present? etc... Look at my highpoint: The Top of Ohio

Yes, you need to get permission from the college or university, I have two on college campuses. The Ohio State University: That Building is Built of 40 Types of Ohio Stone Ohio Wesleyan University: A College Birth & A Presidential Romance At OWU, I went through the Administration Department and at Ohio State I went through the Geology Department and the Administration Department.

True, but there are those who just enter a "Write Note" for a TB or Coin dip who don't even visit the EarthCache.

Coin dips and TB dips, do you like them on EarthCaches?

Another situation to contemplate. How many EarthCaches do we want to start having? Does every waterfall, natural arch, cave, quarry, mine, or etc... need to be an EarthCache? Like every cemetery now having a geocache, or do we just want to have an example in a given area? How would you then define that area-US State, Canadian Providence, Country, World Region? I have an opportunity to develop a lot more EarthCaches but I'm somewhat reluctant since they are not as "quality" orientated. They just don't have that "Wow" factor or what a cool location.

A situation to contemplate. An existing geocache is hidden within a park. The geocache doesn't have any information of the geophysical feature other then the geocache has the general feature in its name. The Parks Department has approved and is excited about an EarthCache at the location and but the geocache owner doesn't want to "share" the park. The geocache was approved by the park so they know of it existence. What do you do? Place the EarthCache 0.1 mi. away from the geocache? What if you cannot place the EarthCache 0.1 mi. away? Place it anyway, the geocacher doesn't "own" the park? Fold it up and move along, we don't want EarthCaches to become like geocaches (every big box parking lot with a skirt lifter or cemetery having a geocache)? What are you thoughts?

Ahhhh, that was done from my desk!

Has a geocache ever ruined your possibility for an EarthCache? I found two neat locations and started my research to contact the the landowners for permission and come to find out that there was quite a stir in the local area a few years back (circa end of 2005-2006) when a large camouflaged ammo box was found at one of the locations. The stir involved the local sheriff and fire department coming to the scene to dispose of the ammo box. It seems the the geocache owner did not have permission from the landowner. Then one snowy afternoon the landowner was out walking his property and notices a lot of human footprint crossing his land. He follows them to the site and only to notice they stop at an ammo box that was uncover and sticking out of the snow. He didn't know what it was only that it was of "military" nature and he left it alone and called the authorities. Now back to 2008 and needles to say, permission was NOT granted. The trespassing, the "bomb" like ammo box, and whole idea of leading more people to the area was the last straw. The landowner hopes to never see an ammo box, a geocache or geocacher on his property again.

Depending upon the cost and time of year, I would be game.

What I usually do when I find an interesting location is do some basic preliminary research. If the site is on public access land I usually plan a visit to snap some photographs and waypoints. Heck, if I cannot get permission for listing, at least I got to visit and explore the area. This is just as fun in my book. If the location is on private property, I do the research about ownership then contact the owner for permission. I do not visit unless given permission by the property owner. In Ohio the local county auditor's office usually has an online database with geo-referenced maps. Once permission is granted, I then go into full gear doing the research and write-up. Most of the time I get permission to visit locations but not to post them as EarthCaches. To date, I have never be denied a visit after being denied listing as an EarthCache.

Be persistent-call, write, and email or better yet stop into the admin. office or by the Ranger Station at the park.

It is the kids from Ohio University. The drinking age is now 21 in Ohio so the underage co-eds come out into the local countryside to party it up.

I just got turned down on a location called The Devil's Tea Table. It is a pillar/balanced rock located on private property. The property owner doesn't want it published because he has enough problems the the local college kids coming to the location party. He even caught two of the college kids smoking pot around a bon fire on a Red Flag Alert day.

Before you get too far, does the location you have in mind have anything to do with an unique geoscience feature or aspect of our Earth? I don't think tree identification will qualify.

How come there are slots for 12 attributes but you can only use 10?

Don't know what part of Arkansas you are in but take a look at the Little Missouri Falls that are SE of Big Fork. I was going to try to develop that but I didn't save my pics from when I visited.

I DNFed one. It was Half Moon Rock, or is it Monkey Rock? (GC1AH81). I attempted but turned back because the rock was too wet.

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How do we get one???

No pics on the e'cache or the other caches.

So what do you think of this log I got today? Log Date: 8/31/2008 Found it, but didn't have any paperwork so didn't get the needed information for proof. Passed it on the way to GC3120. TFTC.

Along the same line, I got beat out of developing an EarthCache by a few days when I went through the governing body's top level administration division and the other party got permission from the forest technician.

I've notice that within the past two 6 weeks a lot of cachers have came though my area and only focused on my earthcaches. On some of my earthcaches, they have to drive right by some of my other regular caches and one of my earthcaches is just 38' feet from my 1/1 caches. Is the popularity of earthcaches on the rise? I hope so.

I noticed that as well.. maybe its REALLY new maybe its a lava dome... oooooo!! Now that would be a cool e'cache!