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The first one, I've posted before, but it was too good not to include. *If you're sharing from flickr, I recommend Medium 800x207.

I agree. I find it odd to look at other people's souvenirs. I have no interest in other people's souvenirs. I'm barely interested in my own.

Very creative! Honestly, I would just laugh at them. I find it incredible that you would find deliberate cheating 'creative'. I know, it's not *really* creative, but it is funny. Best to laugh it off. Saves your stomach lining.

If you don't feel comfortable doing them, don't. I find front yard caches creepy as well, although I will do them if there's nothing else to do. I always worry that maybe I'm in the wrong yard or that the neighbors will call the police. As for what to do, you don't have to announce yourself, just go and search.

Very creative! Honestly, I would just laugh at them.

EGGactly. The reason they really don't want you trespassing is 'cause trains are fast and people are dumb.

I like solving puzzles. I also need money. I'm sure we can work something out.

Surely these would be placed with permission? Either the cache owner's house or their friends. Either way, it should be stated clearly on the cache page. Could you provide us some GC codes? I would think if there are concerns, other cachers would post something in their logs.

I agree, an Earthcache may be your best bet if you REALLY want to 'hide' something. Or you could do Waymarking. Or just enjoy your holiday and hope there's a cache to find next time you return. The trouble with traditional caches is not just that they go missing, but that the container might get broken or moldy or there's damage to the environment or needs to be moved. You need to be local to check on these things. As for getting someone else to maintain it for you, unless you know this person well, it's not likely to work. And you have to ask yourself why they haven't placed a cache there themselves. Perhaps it's not allowed in the area.

I was going to say 'does hallucinating count?' I agree, your mind can play tricks on you, especially when you spend a considerable amount of time alone. There's this one spot in a forest near me that makes me nervous everytime I going past it. The first time I went there, I saw a red shirt hanging in the trees. Thankfully I haven't had to go there too much, however, everytime I do, I keep thinking there's someone hiding in the bushes with a large knife, but there never is.

I would have said DR=Difficulty Rating, if I hadn't read the rest of the thread...

I would archive and publish a new one. No, there's no way of emailing everyone who's logged a Find.

I agree. TBs are probably the best solution.

I agree that this might be the best approach with teens. However, nagging/helping a 9 year old and 13 year old to log their finds is going to get old. Plus they might lose all interest in a year's time.

Goodness, that's about how many I've found all year! You're welcome to come visit anytime. Seriously, finding that many in 1 day is such a rush. Who needs drugs?

Beer can't solve every problem. Sometimes it's better not to play.

I agree, however, at least he's freed from the hassles of cache ownership. It's not for everybody. Right, but is he now - drumroll, & his word, not mine - a GeoLeech?? Better than jumping off a bridge or killing someone.

I agree, however, at least he's freed from the hassles of cache ownership. It's not for everybody.

I would just stick with 1 family account and let them write the logs when they are interested. If they do find a cache without you and you go back later to find it, you can always log a 2nd Find. I've seen people do that. Anything else is way too much work, IMHO. I don't know your kids, but I suspect they won't be finding a ton on their own. If they are still caching when they become adults, they can backlog things if they want or just start from scratch.

Agreed, VERY cheezy to demand payment. Here's how it should go: Finder to CO: "I apologize, but I broke your container trying to get it open. I'm willing to pay for a replacement" CO: "Thanks for letting me know. Don't worry about it. If it broke that easily it's obviously a poor container design. My fault. " Agreed.

You don't. You live in the same area as I do and there are new *traditional* caches being published every day. I don't really see the problem. Ignore the puzzles and go get those ones.

Well, no, it's not. The rule itself is because railroads enforce their rights of way, and that's been made clear on the forums in the past. I fully recognize that this is a semantic distinction, because RRs enforce their rights of way in order to avoid running people over and getting sued. But that is the RR motivation for the rule they make Groundspeak enforce, not the rule. You can argue with me all you want, but this is how my reviewer explained it to me.

I propose a simple solution. Challenge caches should remain, however the smilie should be split into 2 parts. You get 1/2 smilie for Finding the physical cache. You get 1/2 smilie for Completing the challenge. The new icon for Challenges should be either a letter C or a cow.

I like the way you're thinking, although we should try to come up with a catchier name. I don't care so much about getting finals for puzzles and multis, however, I AM in favor of a new membership that turns annoying Challenges into traditional caches.