BethKatzPA

Thank you. This works.

The times on my Adventure Labs seem accurate. People complain about the one that is spread out and takes well over two hours. It's five enjoyable hikes, and the description says that. I finished a spread out lab yesterday where I found the first spot January 13 and the last two spots November 22 For many of the labs I've done, I've already found nearby caches. But how does the time adjust for whether people are caching while they are labbing? I'd like to have the actual median time rather than buckets. But I suppose having the bucket of "over two hours" is sufficient. Let people who want them compact avoid those.

You can use an iPhone 6; I do that with Cachly even without a SIM card. You cannot use an older iPhone with iOS 6 (such as the iPhone 3GS in my original question). None of the older apps can connect to the current geocaching server.

Thank you for all the comments and suggestions. I had to come back and find the post because this forum didn't automatically have me follow the topic when i created it. Sigh. It feels like what I need is a mapping app (maybe MotionX-GPS which is also no longer supported but which I had on that phone way back when) where I can add in waypoints and just ignore the geocaching website. Such an app would also be handy for teaching people about geocaching without having them have an account or look for published geocaches. When I do temporary geocaches, I add them as waypoints on one of my nearby published ones. Again, thank you for confirming that I wasn't missing something.

Argh! I thought I was just being dense while sending Earthcache answers. I always put the answers on separate lines. Shift-Enter isn't a workaround on my iPhone. it's good (but bad) to see it is a bug. With further research, the box doesn't do anything on my Mac desktop using Chrome as the browser. Shift-enter doesn't work there either.

I use my iPhone 11 Pro and Cachly to cache. I also use my old iPhone 6 with Cachly and without a SIM card to have scouts cache. My daughter just gave me back my old iPhone 3GS that I used to use for geocaching. I'd like to be able to use it with scouts as well. However, the old app that I just downloaded won't log in. If I remember correctly, there was a time when the existing geocaching apps were made useless by changes to the geocaching servers. So my question is .... What geocaching app can I run on my iPhone 3GS such that it can connect to the geocaching servers? How do I get that app on my iPhone 3GS?

I encountered this bug when logging a Write Note in Cachly and saving it as a draft. I share ownership of the cache with a friend and have not posted a Found It. He alerted me that I had accidentally logged a find. I was positive I had created a Write Note. I could recreate the bug that brings up the first item in the pop-up list on the web site when editing the draft.

I have a Pocket Query of all my hides. I can import it into Cachly and make a Cachly list. That's handy. But I'd like to look at more info about those caches in Project GC's Virtual GPS. It looks like Project GC can import a bookmark list. But I can't get the PQ into an online bookmark list. This seems to be something many people might want to do. But I'm stuck. Edit: I knew that if I posted, I would find the answer to my problem. PAF (phone a friend) works like that, too. :-) In Project GC > Home > Dashboard > Advanced Search > cache owner (I did my name exactly and all of US) On result, select all and add to VGPS.

There was a bug in the system earlier today. Probably the most effective fix is to copy the text of your logs, delete the logs, and log the find again with the pasted text.

The scoring says maximum of 15 points per cache. Scoring seems to be fixed for new logs. But existing logs don't seem to be fixed. Will people need to go back to each incorrectly scored log, copy the text, delete the log, and log again pasting the copied text? Edit: It would be good to adjust the scoring graphic to say (as it said in the pre-hype) that there is a maximum of 15 points per cache. I'm attaching a screenshot showing what we were seeing.

A friend just found my new mystery (reviewer published it as pursuit started) but only received 5 points. I reported bug to GC HQ.

I mentioned it way back when, too. Not showing it is annoying. I thought it was perhaps a short-term problem, but it's looking to be a long-term one. If I have to add a note saying a checker is available, I might as well use a more fully-featured and less spacious checker that shows up in the mobile apps.

The checker still does not appear in mobile apps. So someone using the mobile app does not realize that there is a checker. Can there at least be some indicator that there is a checker?

Are there any plans to make this checker available for mobile apps? I just published some geo-art where we used the built-in checker to give searchers some reassurance. But I didn't realize that it doesn't display on any of the mobile apps. Searchers need to look at the checker on the web site.

This problem still exists. When I change the coordinates of an existing cache, I do so with a log. But the coordinates are then visible to anyone looking at the cache listing. My solution is to delete the log. The coordinates stay changed, but the log isn't visible. I then make an Owner Maintenance log and note that the coordinates have been updated. But I shouldn't have to do that.

Thank you for the well-written explanation. As a computer scientist and an affected cache owner, I saw the "unpublished" aspect of the problem. I think I sent you a note about that. Your explanation of the problem and solution shows us why you consider the bug squashed. A local series published yesterday with 10 caches, and it looks like they all had notifications. Yes. Thank you.

In the past week, I have had three caches publish without receiving notifications for them. Three. I did receive notification for one I published. For the first one (Paint It Black - GC6MGNM), it would have been the third notification in a batch of 3 for our area. No one received the notification although many received the first two. That was last Monday. I had told some friends that was published, so I also posted on our local Facebook group. For the second one on Saturday, I had two caches in the batch of three. Everyone received a notification for the first one (Topiary Trouble Too - GC6KVNP), but no one received a notification for the third (1616 - GC6PR9B). Our local caching group had an event that evening, so I announced it there and later in the Facebook group. Now I have the third one that published almost 30 minutes ago (Oito-Oito-Dezesseis - GC6PVC4). Yes, I'm impatient given this apparent bug. One cache published; no notification. The title refers to 8-8-16 in Portuguese. Today's date. No notification. I haven't told friends. I haven't posted on our local Facebook group. In the first two cases, no one who normally receives notifications received them for my two caches. By now, I would have received the notification on my new cache. This changes the game. I'm sad.

Curious when you remember any version of the free GC app to work differently. Though I'd love to see it, the way this app thing has taken off just the last few years, I don't see recruitment slowing down any time soon. When we first started, the only app we found available at the time cost us 30. bucks a year on top of the 30. for pm. This new one's a savings today, yet same as the (another soon to be discontinued) Windows app we've already had for a coupla years. I bought the paid app years ago for my iPhone. And I've been a premium member for almost 11 years now. But I thought the free/intro app had info about more caches than just plain 1.5/1.5.

Any news or updates? This morning I had yet another friend ask which app to use for geocaching. I want to be able to suggest the official geocaching app. But it's my understanding that it doesn't allow her to search for my simple mystery caches or anything above 1.5/1.5. Philosophically, that's wrong. That is not how you recruit new people into the game. And given the lack of official comments recently, I sounds like the geocaching officials bought the software development snake oil of what will be available when. (said as a computer science/software engineering professor) Please change your mind and make the paid app available again. You'll get an infusion of cash (especially if you drop the price to $3). Then listen to geocachers and make the new app really usable. Create real use-cases for beginners and experienced cachers as well as unpaid and premium members in a variety of places including out in the woods with no cel phone connection.

In the iPhone version of the new app, the icon is showing a badge saying I have a new message. I've read the message, the badge icon on the app icon won't go away. Neither will the one on the envelope in the app. I checked on the website; I have no new messages. I had to quit the app and restart to clear the badge.

As a premium member and a cache owner, I find the low limits on basic users horrid. I rate my caches based on their difficulty and terrain. If I wanted to make them for premium members only, I'd mark them that way. I've been a longtime user of the paid app and a longtime premium member. Is it really your intent to push new basic users to other companies' apps? Really?

I have a list that includes mystery caches. I've solved some of them and have entered the coordinates on the web site. I asked the updated app to save the cache for offline use. I then put my iPhone in airplane mode. The updated coordinates were not saved. That I *have* updated coordinates is not shown under Waypoints. In addition, the first three times I looked at Waypoints for that cache, the existing waypoints (posted and parking) did not come up. Just now they did. But my corrected coordinates are not showing. If I tap Start, I'm given the choice of View Puzzle, Enter Solved Coordinates, and Go to Posted Coordinates. Tapping the screen makes that panel go away; please make cancel an explicit choice as well. For a non-mystery cache in that list, only a very high level map was saved. For the mystery cache, in the classic app with the info saved for offline use, I see the posted coordinates, the parking, and the corrected coordinates. To be fair, the classic app didn't have the hybrid satellite map downloaded. The new app needs to be able to create a list and add a cache to a list *within the app*. Creating a list and adding it while on the web site is not sufficient. And it absolutely must download corrected coordinates. So I took my iPhone out of airplane mode and am looking at that solved mystery. It now says solved. But if I click on Waypoints, it isn't showing any (not parking or the solved coordinates). Only after I start navigation (which does show a map now), stop navigation, and look at waypoints does it finally show solved coordinates (not posted coordinates which is what is was showing when I had saved for offline use) and parking. There's no indication of which mystery caches in the list in the app have solved coordinates. I took my phone back into airplane mode and looked down the list to another one I have solved. Tapping it, it does *not* show that it is solved. No waypoints show up. No waypoints show up now for the one I was examining above although it does now say Solved and is showing the corrected coordinates on the map. Stopping takes seconds. ... Took phone out of airplane mode and the waypoints show up including the solved coordinates for the solved mystery. I understand that you are trying to provide functionality incrementally so that we have "something". But that isn't a good way to develop software. And it is really annoying from the user's perspective when one of the things "saved for offline use" does not include the corrected coordinates for solved mysteries.

I understand the concern for newbies and cache thieves. Thank you for your perspective about the low cost entry point to the game. But I believe that limiting the trademarked geocaching app to 1.5/1.5 for non-premium members will only push people to use other apps that don't have that limitation. Adding that limit to this app doesn't solve the problem. Thinking out loud: Maybe a different solution (sort of building on what you suggest) would be having a new attribute for caches that are for beginners. And new non-premium members (fewer than 25 finds) could see only those caches on any platform. I don't think that's a great solution, but neither is limiting this app when there are other ways (and apps) to view those caches. There's nothing to say that the cache thieves aren't premium members or muggles who stumbled on the cache container.

Am I the only one who would prefer a compass circle with a directional arrow pointing at the cache, rather than the black navigation band? My comment about stealth interface mentions that if you are navigating and have the black band, if you tap the black band, a compass circle with a directional arrow appears. I didn't try that in the field yet. The big compass is there but hidden. Get the big compass by tapping the thin black band. Go back by tapping close at upper right. I am concerned by the limitation of the new app for non-premium members to only 1.5/1.5 D/T ratings or lower. This is not nice or fair. It doesn't encourage people to become members of the geocaching community. I've been a premium member for over 10 years including during my 270-some day slump and 522-day streak. People respond much better to having carrots dangled in front of them rather than doors slammed in their faces. When I place a cache, if I want to restrict it to premium members, I restrict it by choosing that box. I choose the difficulty/terrain and type based on appropriate criteria. I recently placed a 2.5/2.0 mystery cache in a local park. I think it is entirely reasonable for a basic member to be able to see that cache in the new app. I am appalled that non-premium users cannot see that cache in the new app. That is not in the spirit of the friendly geocaching community. Please remove that restriction in your next release.

I've used the paid app for many years. On Friday, I used the new app out in the woods from a list generated by a pocket query. My caching companions had used only the intro app, so they helped me when I had questions. I didn't make any logs in the field, but we found 16 of the 16 caches we searched for including a 4.5/4.5 multi that hadn't been found for three years. Woot! I have some observations based on my experience. The black navigating band below the map needs to be taller. Not everyone has 20-something eyes. It should be at least twice as tall with the distance font doubled in size. Ah, ha. Stealth interface. I just discovered that if I tap on the black band, I get a bigger compass. I still want the distance and black band taller. Needs ability to refresh cache data. I can refresh the data from the website in the paid app. The new app does not display our logs (created after our trip) from Friday. I see no way to update a cache listing in the new app. When I browsed to the area by moving the map (rather than looking at the pocket query list which also doesn't give new data), the map show the caches we found as smilies. However, the activity displayed still shows what was downloaded Thursday evening. I see no way to refresh the cache data. By the way, I want a way to refresh a whole list's data at home while connected to a faster data connection. I know you plan to make saving lists for offline use an option very soon; that's essential. My experience suggests that lists are not being updated after they are downloaded. I really want that for new caches; for example, has someone already found the new cache when I'm heading out for the FTF? Setting waypoints to current location seems flaky. Setting waypoints for the multi we were doing worked fine. However, two times when I have set a waypoint by tapping current location, the app has created three waypoints. Response-time is slow. I have an 9-month-old iPhone 6. It was slow to recognize the Stop as well as Start navigating. Just now, with my phone plugged in to my computer and with a good wired internet connection, it took at least four seconds to stop navigating. Optimize your code where it is used frequently. Response to that tap should be instantaneous. Color contrast needs to be higher on map display of caches. Maybe try a brighter dot outline color. Need more helpful Geocache Details. The D/T and size should be included in the small summary info. Size is more important than number of favorites when we are actively searching. The About info should include find info (# finds, # DNFs, last found, ...). The dials for D/T aren't helpful. By the way, it looks like the font for Activity is a point size smaller than About and Waypoints. Be consistent. Need all log types. Sometimes we need to log Needs Maintenance. Owners need their log types. I can't log Owner Maintenance and check that the log was recorded online without switching to the paid app or the website. I'm thinking that you've made the decision to stop supporting the paid/classic app and won't rescind it. Please carefully consider when you will no longer allow the paid app to access your server. I like the suggestion that you allow that well past July and until the number of accesses from the classic app drops to a low level. We know what features we find essential. I see that the paid/classic has a note in the store saying that it will not be available for download after March 23rd. I noticed that there were updates to both the paid and new app before I finished this post, so I downloaded them. My notes still stand as written above.