Renegade Knight

I know the feeling, and I've had it go both ways. The nicest people turn out to be backstabbers, and the rudest SOB's will give you the shirt off their back once you take time to know them. There is at least one regular contributer to the forum's who I swear I'm always 180 degrees from on most of their opinions. If I met em, who knows.

There is a good chance something like that would get plundered by a beachcomber. Try the coast guard, they may not be the people who give permission, but they should at least know.

Put down the hammer. If you own acres, you won't get the roving hoards of geocachers. The ones on private property are fine. What you would do is say something along the lines of. "This cache is on private propery, park at these coordinates xxxxxxx, then have fun" If you want to put a disclaimer such as "You the geocacher assume all risk and liablity for trodding upon my property, further I do not claim that they property is fit for any purpose including geocaching, yada yada yada..." Here the ones that are on private property state the rules. "Stay away from the animals, you don't need to go near any buildings" etc.

I've got a multi cache planned. I'm going to use pencil on paper. I heard that pencil holds up well and having heard that did my address book in pencil. It then got washed with a load of clothes. Not every page survived but those that did were still readable. I was able to recover 90% of my address book.

quote:Originally posted by BassoonPilot: The cache, however, did in fact exist, so the title of this topic is not really correct. It's the information page that was nonexistent. [This message was edited by BassoonPilot on March 24, 2002 at 04:59 AM.] And so now we need to make a disction between a cache information page and the cache. Is a plundered cache really a chache at all since it's not there to be found but it's information page is? Is a cache always consisting of two parts, the infomation page and the cache, er, location, er well now we have virtual caches too... maybe I found all those and they haven't been posted yet. Enough nit picking. I haven not run into a cache that was hidden but not yet posted. There is usually some lag time between hiding and posting, or vice versa as is the case on a cache I'm watching near by. It's posted but not hidden (cache is temporarily disabled until this happens).

I third the motion. Kill old topics and bring them back again. Keep the forums moving.

I do recall the adds. Never heard if the case/s were found or not. Then again I was rather young.

Once a cache is 10 miles out of town (here in Boise, Idaho) they get visited about once every month. That hardly qualifies as wear on the land. Maybe there are more people in Main all wiht big feet who stomp around the forest and trample everything...Or maybe not. It needs addressed. And it may come to pass that wilderness become verbotten.

I've thought about this also, but nowhere nearly as in depth as you guys! There should be a method of adopting a cache, plus a method of putting one up for adoption. If I'm on a vist and I plant a cache I would probably want to adopt it out to a local who is interested. Still in some places there are not many caches so it's tempting to get the ball rolling even if you can't maintain it like you would like. Mabye some of your ideas will get implemented.

I like the picture Idea because I would tend to clean out the McToys even if it meant leaving a sparce cache. Were I to come across a sparce cache and there was NOTHING suitable as a souvaneer (even a chewed on bouncy ball has some merit...) I'd just leave my signature Item and take nothing.

Excellent. That would have been a pleasant suprise.

Excellent. That would have been a pleasant suprise.

quote:Originally posted by BassoonPilot: To __require__ a photo would be discriminatory against those folks who don't own a digital camera or scanner. If the point of the virtual is to bring geocachers to a specific place, however, I tend to agree that an actual, physical visit should be required at the site. But it's up to the cache owner to state that in the description and enforce it. I agree that a virtual cache should be found by visiting the coordinates. Even if you find the answer to the question on your computer. I can find an ammo can in my garage that matches a lot of caches around these parts. It's not the same though. On the other hand I really don't have a problem with a Cache that requires Scuba Gear (which I would not get) or a 4x4 (more my style), or a Camera (which I don't have) The more variety the better. Maybe I'll even pick up my next hobby from a special cache.

He who makes the cache makes the rules. If they ask for an email, you send an email. If they want a picture of you in a chicken suit, you send the picture. Or you exercise your free will and don't do the cache. It's not complex. As for your rude emailer you simply say. "You email me the answer the same way you just did to chew me out. After an apology for being rude I will be happy to approve your find." Maybe people will think that's arrogant, but then you own the cache. For the record if I make a cahce and ask for an email I would also delete logs that didn't follow the rules.

I've always used Treasure. This is from the days when hiking in the Snake River canyon would would find something like tear gas canisters or a marble. Best 'treasure' wins.

It looks like you have to triangulate using mapping software and other coordinates. That's not hard. But you get about 528' of accuracy which is a large area depending on how many hiding places there are. In a lot of places here in Idaho that would give you what seems like thousands of spots. Some of our caches have litterally hundrest of spots in a 50' radius due to the vast quantity of rocks. On the other hand 500' in a city park with lots of grass and not so many spots would be much less difficult. So it really depends on your location.

quote:Originally posted by bunkerdave:This is a stupid, petty, small-minded session. Don't you have anything better to do? IF you want to discuss something, discuss something that matters. And why exactly did you pipe in? To make a petty, small-minded comment? Take your own advice and be nice, or at least spend your time on one of the topics that matters to you.

My logs are a trail of my adventures. I leave them as I wrote them the first time. So my couldn't finds all out there. Besides they do help others determin the difficulty.

Right idea, looks like a pain in the butt to actually use. I can just imagine actually trying to walk with that thing to your eye. Or will it solve the have to be moving problem by an 'electronic gyroscope'

Right idea, looks like a pain in the butt to actually use. I can just imagine actually trying to walk with that thing to your eye. Or will it solve the have to be moving problem by an 'electronic gyroscope'

quote:Originally posted by phantom4099: I am wondering if your party preferences had anything to do with what GPS brand you prefer. I was kind of thinking the republicans may like Garmin better and democrats might prefer Magellan. Am I just nuts or is there something to it? Wyatt W. So do a poll with 4 points. Garmin/Demo Garmin/Rep Magellan/Demo Magellan/Rep

A team can cover a lot of ground. Toss in some friends as part of the team from around the country and keep the team concept up wiht the team signature items an you could easily pull off legitimate finds in multiple places at the same time. As for not finding a cache 1 mile from another, thats normal. This weekend I ran out of time and left about 6 unfound ones close buy. I'll get them next time.

Nice rants. They dont seem to be going anywhere.

I just did one and people are having all sorts of trouble finding it. It's a bearing of 307 feet from a point to the cache. The error of using a GPS and compass is pretty high. If you do a mulit I'd go with coordinates for each leg.

My first cache was GPS'less. It took two tries and I wasn't yet aware of some of the online mapping tools that would have helped. I'm still a neophite for the online mapping junk and mapping junk in general but we all learn.