mancicle

did you give jeremy both barells for sticking his nose in jeffs business?

that sounds about right

I believe there was another Guideline cited as well: (I know I copy/pasted it a couple times. I think Brian did too) Under the heading "Guidelines that apply to all cache types" "At times a cache may meet the listing requirements for the site but the reviewers, as experienced teachers, may see additional concerns that you as a cache placer may not have noticed." For the sake of clarity, perhaps we could call this the discretion clause, as it seems to grant the Reviewers a certain degree of discretion and flexibility to act just a hair outside the Guidelines, so long as their actions are in the best interest of the game. If a cacher does not like how that discretion is applied, they can always forward their concerns to Groundspeak, who will render a judgement. funny that you read it that way. most people see it as telling you that sometimes reviewers may need to point out concerns even though the cache is legal. it doesnt mean they have the right to turn the cache down. 1 terrain caches would be a good example. it may be located on an easy trail that isnt wheelchari accessible. they might suggest that you change the terrain to 1.5 but they cant stop you form listing it as a 1 terrain. there are a lot of things that a reviewer might see and point out. there is nothing wrong with that but its also not a good reason to turn down a cache. and the fact that reviewers dont get paid is not a good reason for making your own rules. if we have to foolow the rules then they should too.