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Ok, I'll join the brag festival here in this thread.. [eyeroll]. I plan on adding nine European countries to my list this summer; Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, and Italy. Will be visiting France too but I've already been there before [spoken with my best hoity toity voice possible].

Too bad he's usually "geocaching" with Mondou2, on opposite sides of the country at the same time.

That's what I used.

What makes you think no one cared enough? Why is the world so quick to judge???

My statement about consistency was stated in such a way that suggested I wasn't referring strictly about this particular issue, but any inconsistencies across the board about anything. And then everything you said starting in paragraph two and beyond is just as petty as what you claim to be petty.

Interesting cache history. I don't know what the story is. It's none of my business and I don't have a horse in the race. Even if I lived in the area it wouldn't affect me because of the way I play the game. But what irks people is the inconsistency, or even the appearance of inconsistency even if there is a valid story. So I get both sides. But there must be a way to archive it and then unarchive it if whatever obstacle is eventually overcome. Problem solved for the CO. Problem solved for Groundspeak. And problem solved for those that are sensitive to such issues. But to let us all sit here and speculate doesn't do any of us any good.

This, almost verbatim. With one exception that I would prefer to sign my own name if at all possible. If I can't, I'd have no problem joining the team. My minimum requirement for this practice is that you at least have to be there and participating in some manner. If you're sitting at home and get your name on the log then you should be privately mocked and ridiculed.

I agree with most of what you said, in terms of the cartridge. I obviously didn't make it clear that I was referring strictly to the coords within the cache listing and NOT the cartridge itself. The listed coords versus the final container. And based on that, I did not misunderstand what I was told.

I went back and checked the email from my reviewer. Here's what he said, in the context of treating a Wherigo like a multicache..

LOL, jeez it's easy to judge here in the forums. There are so many other legitimate gripes in geocaching, why get offended over the most mundane details?

You can't archive it but you can keep it from showing in any searches.. and then just never link to it. Groundspeak never completed the Wherigo website outside of what you see today. And probably never will from what I read in the forums.

Yes, according to my reviewer. I wanted to build a cartridge that takes the player on about a 40 mile ride and that's the only way I could get it published. Perhaps use a first stage to contain a lock combination or some other field information required for a puzzle in the cartridge. Again, I want to emphasize that is what how I understood it. Since winter here in MN had set in last December I never did create the Wherigo. But now that we're thawing out I plan on testing the idea in April.

Based only on what my reviewer told me, the Wherigo is treated like a multicache and mystery. If the listed coords are virtual, then the final has to be no more than the two mile limit. But if there's a container or some physical thing at the listed, then there is no limit. If I am in error in understanding the official rules, I blame my reviewer ;-)

LOL. Just noticed his virtual.. in Wisconsin. He has to get the needle for that... LOL.

Or pepash13 could host his own event.. I've done that when I needed help with certain things.

If you're asserting said cache owner was trying to enforce some kind of ALR on a cache other than one that allows ALR's (virtual and EC) I wouldn't even bat an eye. I would ignore the email and immediately relog the find. If it gets deleted again, appeal it. Of course, that's assuming your name is really on the log.

I refuse to change my DNF habits based on what some think is a poorly designed cache health score system. I will continue to do as I see fit. In the end, if it truly is a poor way to judge the health of a cache, perhaps my habits will help drive us towards a better and more reliable cache health scoring system. If I don't find a cache for ANY circumstance, I log the DNF. And for those that think they're the de facto experts on geocache logging etiquette, I really don't care what you think. ;-)

No. Calling me lazy and accusing me of bad scruples when you have no earthly idea how I cache is bad etiquette.

Too bad. It sounds challenging to me.

He's running around Minnesota metal detecting now. ok, maybe not exactly now because there's four feet of snow on the ground. But you get the idea.

And previous threads will prove you know my name isn't Bert. So let's talk about insults a bit longer...

You mean like taking a perfectly viable opinion, claiming not to understand it, but instead of moving on post passive aggressive comments? Then asserting that any reply to passive aggressive comments is resorting to insults?

My quote below was really that difficult to understand? Jeez, I know written and verbal communications are one of my weaker points but I didn't think this one was that hard to decipher. For those that are confused, let me elaborate using bullet points instead.. Generally speaking, it is widely accepted that virtual, EC, and webcam cache owners when at all possible, provide a "reasonable amount of time" for finders to post any qualifying requirements. Perhaps that same concept of "reasonable amount of time" should be applied to the enforcement of posting the qualifiers. There, did that help? I'll even add that the "reasonable amount of time" could even have a multiplication factor added to it. So if one week is considered reasonable for posting qualifiers, perhaps that one week, times one month or one-half year or even one year, should be the limit in enforcing the qualifier.. so doing cache log maintenance two years after the fact would be a lame move.

Then if that's the case, after three pages just in this thread alone, you must just like to hear yourself talk. If you communicate clearly and effectively, a single post is all that's needed.