well, i know that where that cache was hidden just was remodeled (it was hidden in front of a store, on a barrier type thing), and it's a great idea, but when they were remodeling, i'm sure they snatched it up with the old rocks (or whatever was there) and tossed it away. i've been out there twice along with 3 other people that couldn't find it, so it's evident that it's gone.