huskerrich2000

I came to geocaching from the letterboxing fraternity. It never ceases to amaze me how many times the two hobbies seem to come across the lines. Letterboxing has a bad opinion of geocacher, I feel for good reason. 1) Jeremy has created a excellent site with good cooperation of the land owners. Oversite of where caches are placed and how close together. Maintenance of online logs. Letterboxing doen't have the oversite and the orgainzation to match. 2) Geocaching does seem to get both the negative and postive P.R. We are the better known of the two activities even though there was letterboxing before geocaching. 3) the nature of our sport allows us to have better control. With all our advantages, why do we insist on placing our caches near existing letterboxes? I know of one cache in the PAC NW that even notes on the cache page that there is a letterbox within ten feet of it. (the cache was created in 2004, letterbox existed since 2001). This area is a huge public flower garden and the two boxes are within a few feet of each other. Nearest geocache to this box is .8miles away.

SUp3rFM & Cruella Posted Today, 07:42 AM If the cache is for PM ONLY, then it's only for PM. Simple as that. It's like driving an 18 wheeler on a road to cars only. The authorities wouldn't care if the truck driver was there because he was driving along with some friends driving smaller cars... In the case of a road designated for cars only, that road is also engineered for cars, not trucks. In the case of your cache, unless it is on private land, it is in the public domain. The basic requirements for logging a cache is signing the log, if one does that he is entitled to a smiley even if he finds it by chance, (finding the final of a multi without finding all the intermediates). If I knowingly found a pmo, I probaly wouldn't trade for the "high quality swag" , but I would probaly take a tb, very few have a goal of pmo caches only.

ok to answer the original question, the first finder of this cache is in fact a non premium member. He was invited on a caching trip, I assume by a premium member and he happened to be the one to make the find. The cache owner does however have a right not to award a "first to find prize" to a nonpremium member. If I had multiple cache logins in my family group, I wouldn't nesscessarily have a premium membership on all of them, for these reason Jeremy has provided the back door method of logging a pmo cache. The last situation would be a chance finding. I assume that if I gave coordinates and the name of the cache to the cache owner, that he would allow the find even though I wasn't a premium member. I would be no different than a muggle finding the cache. However, I wouldn't push the issue. In this situation, the cache owner should allow the log of the nonpremium member to stand. If he doesn't, the premium member of the finder group can log the fact of the true first finder in his log. However the childlishness of the cache owner, properly won't even allow this

well the question here would be do I make them find the tool first or the cache? Is the outside of the container such that we can put coordinates for the tool? Also if we treat it like a multi chances are we will have proximity requirements to worry about (528 ft). Will it be obvious what I need to open the container since opening it with the provided tool seems to be your goal? Also 20-30' is usually considered within the standard accepted error of most gps'r. Assuming you know the route that the cacher will take to get to your cache, I believe it might be smart to have them find the tool first , Then the cache then return the tool. But I think proximity would be in effect on this cache huskerrich

if the coordinates given do not lead you to a cache to be found, it can't be a traditional cache, if you have to "figure out where the cache is based on clues contrived from the location, you can consider it a multi. if finding the original location or ending location requires research beyond arriving and observing, you probaly have a puzzle cache

Center, your google map on Winterset, Ia and take a look at all the 1/1 caches in the county, print the map and cache page out.

Cooties, I find your name kind of interesting, do you letterbox also? However "cooties" in the letterboxing world is a stamp that you do not try to plant in other boxes(hitchiker or as we know it travelbug), but a stamp that must be passed person to person. Usually at letterboxing gatherings. We don't have an equivalent to this in geocaching. huskerrich

assuming you could get permission for a box on a cruise ship, you could list it as a letterbox, and list it on atlasquest or letterboxing.org however, I don't believe you could ever list it here, because it would be a moving cache, or a commercial cache.

the tree spell out either 1957 or 67 , there is some argument, but its believed to be when this grove was planted

this photo is in a cache near lincoln http://www.google.com/maphp?hl=en&q=&a...mp;t=k&om=0

depends on the cache, however in keeping with leave no unnecessary trace, stay on the trail as much as possible. Even an animal trail can lead you to a ford in a stream that you would not have found bushwhacking

Old soldier, Will the IQUE support geocaching icons, and cache sheets I am considering the IQue for paperless caching and using my legend for the actual hunt.

in the past, it there were "new posts" in the forum that you haven't read it would be noted EX. (Geocaching.com Web Site NEW POSTS) . For myself it made it easier to probe the forums.

is there any way to bring the new post flag back

You know it's funny about caches like these. We think nothing of hopping into a car and power cache the entire day. However if we see a multi that involves driving more than one mile it is shunned like the plague even though that cache has numerous sidetrips (trad caches) that are on that route. Numbers aren't important, it's how you get there

by the way I am aware that I can't actually register this cache because of proximity issues. this is just and example

okay keystone, if I understand this discussion, I can't put the coordinates for the start of my geocache, and have offset puzzle cache where the hint describes the final location of the cache. (please see example) http://www.lincolntent.com/antelope-clues.html

Congrats on bringing an old-fashioned idea back to life. The original letterboxes were hidden on islands in the western pacific and Indian Oceans. Sea Captains that regularily traveled those routes knew where these boxes were and stopped often to check the boxes for mail destined for the direction they were headed and to drop mail off. So our Canadian brothers are just following their roots. ( the English sea captains)

another idea would be to preplan your route stops based on caches you want to hunt. for example if you travel 2 hour before stopping look for caches near that stop . the state maps are very helpful for this.

dutchorn found tb oakley tb oakley was also found by guitarnutz guitarnutz found (gcjvvk) I also found (gcjvvk)

sl: signed log tnln: took nothing left nothing tfth©: thanks for the hide(cache)

The Throne Room- $45 This is one is great for kids from 6 years old to 9 years old. Your guide will take you through the Discovery passage to the Throne Room, where you can sit on the throne and sign the register. You may even get to see Angel Hair growing in the Discovery Passage. This trip takes about 2 hours for an adult, longer for children. Minimum of three people required. (There is some climbing and some crawling) this was pasted from the commercial website itself

I assume you want to send your own travel bug on a mission that you create. If this is the case, you will need to purchase tags from geocaching.com or Groundspeak which will provide you with an unique number to track your bug on this website. If you wish to help a tb on its mission, do a search in your area, look for the travel bug symbol, and then search for the cache. pick up the tb, and post it on this website using the direction at the top of this forum. Find another cache that either fulfills the mission of the bug or helps it on its way and be certain to log it. Remember tb's are the property of the owner and aren't "trade items". happy hunting

this race started in Jackson, missisipi and one of the bugs that is in this race is now in nebraska. Although it probaly won't win it is probaly now in second place after it gets credit for mileage from alaska. I am now aware of a family visiting from missisipi. however they don't own a gps'r. Are there any letterbox hybrids near memphis that this family can deliver the bug. So it can be in dixie before the new year?

maybe I'm just not seeing it. I did find a way to track, subscribe but not ignore. this would be nice for topics like avator and test.