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  1. well i am still trying to decide on what unit to buy. i like that this one has maps at no extra cost. how is it for geocacheing and routing? also considering the gpsmap 60csx. any good info is much appreciated. i have read about 1000 reviews over the 2 this weekend.

    Go to REI or a store that sells the models you're considering. Reading about them is good, but no substitute for handling them. Before this I ruled out the PN-40 because of the small screen. When I tried it in the store I found the small screen wasn't a problem after all.

     

    I have a 60CSx at the moment which I've used for two years. Great unit, but the desire to go paperless is almost a necessity if you do a fair amount of geocaching. My replacement choices came down to:

     

    1. Garmin Colorado - much better software since it was introduced and the price has really dropped. Really considered it when there was a $50 rebate last month. I let it pass as this unit doesn't get as much attention from Garmin anymore since the Oregon was released.

     

    2. DeLorme PN-40 - a strong contender in the race to dominate the GPS market. This also had a $50 rebate (just recently expired) which made me take a closer look. The unlimited maps for $30 a year is another attractive selling point of Delorme. DeLorme is also a regular on this forum and they really listen to us. I didn't buy their GPS for a couple of reasons:

     

    - The constant on requires the batteries to be removed after use or they'll be drained in a month.

     

    - The battery door requires two screws, and although it's a really water tight solution, I much prefer the Garmin battery doors, especially if you have to do a lot of battery changes.

     

    - The buttons aren't back lite like on my 60CSx. I like to know where the buttons are at night.

     

    - Cosmetically the PN series are just ugly and look like child's toys! Sorry DeLorme, I know you're probably trying to appeal to the boaters, but safety yellow and international orange top the charts when it comes to loud. I bought an RC submarine which looks a lot like the PN-20. I have no doubt your next model, say the PN-60, will probably be a nice subdued color scheme and maybe have a better case size to screen ratio. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on DeLorme.

     

    3. Garmin Oregon - A recent and still current $50 rebate combined with a slight price drop at Amazon.com made me pull the trigger on the 300 model. I already have a Garmin 24K Topo (includes routable roads) microSD so this was a good choice for me. The screen has daylight readable issues, but since I don't intent to mount the GPS I can easily make hand adjustments. Maybe I'll feel differently when I actually hike with it.

     

    In the end it really comes down to personal preference. I highly recommend going to a store that allows a hands on inspection.

  2. The PQ comes as a single gpx file containing 500 caches. You'll run into the 2000 cache limit long before the file limit.

    Wow that was a fast answer!

     

    So when you transfer using Garmin Communicator each geocache is loaded one-at-a-time and each geocaches counts as one GPX file?

     

    Another question if I may. Can you load say 10 PQs of 500 geocaches each (5000 total or 3000 over the limit) and somehow store the extra 3000 geocahes for later display?

  3. I have a related question I couldn't find the answer too on the wiki. The maximum amount of GPX files you can download onto the Oregon is 200 according to what I read. The maximum number of geocaches you get from pocket quiries is 500. My question is how does the Oregon load all 500 PQ cache descriptions when its limit is 200 GPX files?

  4. Thanks WHO-DEY for posting the rebate. That combined with a little price drop the other day at Amazon.com made me pull the trigger on a Garmin Oregon 300. I've passed on similar recent rebates for the Colorado and Delorme PN-40, both of which I almost went for. It seems there is currently no one dominent GPS on the market. All seem to have something lacking in one form or another, so it's really a personal prefence as to which unit works best for each person.

  5. These might help.

     

    http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=199936

     

    http://www.cachedroid.com/

     

    I think your G1 is the first andriod phone to hit the market. Others should follow soon. Supposedly one of the Nuvifones will be android based (not the M20 or G60) and maybe released the end of this year. I'm waiting to see what comes out. My dream GPS phone would not only be running android applications, but have the street and topo maps contained within for using the GPS in remote areas. That's where Garmin/ASUS might be headed.

  6. In theory they could pimp up the 60CSx with a new firmware that improved it's geocaching features. Such a move would make the choice of GPS easy but from a marketing perspective I am pretty sure that is never going to happen.

    That would solve viewing the screen in daylight problem, solve the track log instability problem, give us a good fix on a WAAS satellite, give us automatic day and night mode colors, and all without smuging up the screen with fingerprints. Hell I'd even pay Garmin to put out such a software update.
  7. I fish and hike, and the 60CSx shows me tides
    Where do I find tide info on the 60CSx?

     

    You have to have a topo installed, at least mine didn't show up until I had installed TOPO US. If you do have one installed, you go to the coast, and you'll see these little two-toned blue circles. Those are tide stations, it you click one, and hit Enter, it will show you the tides. In San Diego, it shows all the "official" tide stations.

    Thanks Marc! I never knew it was there. It shows on my 24K Topo MicroSD card.
  8. I couldn't find any info on this so I'm asking any Garmin Oregon owner: Can the pictures on the background screen be turned off (black or some other solid color) or are you forced to choose some pebble or basketweave image?

     

    Another question: I have read the Oregon doesn't have the automatic day to night color changes like on the 60CSx. Can a night mode be "manually" selected?

     

    Thanks

  9. We used to get two unlock codes for the City Nav DVD. Somewhere it changed to just one. It's just one more reason I purchased the microSD version rather then not being able to use the DVD maps on the next model I buy. So it's only two states and I can't display it on MapSource, but I get the same autorouting City Nav maps and the added feature of 1/24th scale topo maps all integrated together. I can upgrade to a new Garmin GPS whenever and as many times as I want and all I have to do is transfer the microSD card and I'm in business.

  10. I'm wondering if the 60CSx accepts GPX files and simply limits the text field(s) thereby cutting off most of the geocaching.com page info. Assuming the geocaching template could be updated to something similar to that of the Oregon/Colorado series, would it be of interest to Garmin to incorporate this in a software update to keep the sales of this popular and reliable unit going strong, or would this have too much of an impact on the sales of their newer models?

  11. Hi,

     

    Has anyone purchased one of the new TOPO US 24K cartridges for their area? I'm wondering if the roads and streets are shown at the same level of detail as with CityNavigator NT N. America. Are the roads placed accurately on the 24K maps, or are they off like with the TOPO basemaps in the Colorado and Oregon?

     

    Since Garmin advertises these maps as having routable roads and trails, I'm wondering if they are suitable substitutes for CityNav in the regions they cover?

     

    Are you happy with the products?

     

    I'm most interested in the California/Nevada and Washington/Oregon sets.

     

    Thanks!

     

    I have the Garmin 24K Topo CA/NV microSD in my 60CSx. It has replaced my City Navigator NT v8 and Topo 2008 that I used to download from MapSource. I can tell you the roads are the same as City Navigator (a little better for me as the micsoSD card is updated from my version 8) and they are routable. The topo info is displayed simultaneously with the streets so there is no need to hide/show one or the other which I think is an improvement. I don't have an Oregon or a Colorado so I can't answer your question as how it compares with those units and their basemaps, but I can say I haven't noticed anything off about the roads on the microSD so far.

     

    Yes this is a nice substitute for both Topo and City Nav if all you need are just the state(s) the microSD covers.

     

    I have noticed a few flaws in my CA/NV micsoSD. The arrived at tone usually doesn't sound when you reach your destination when completing a route, and sometimes the route calculation hangs a bit long which once resulted in my GPSr shutting down by itself. These maybe compatability issues with the 60CSx or maybe these two issues appear in all Garmin mapping units. I don't have anything other than a 60CSx to try the microSD card in.

  12. I grew up using 7.5 minute (24K) topo maps, and the 1:100,000 scale maps. Knowing the 24K maps provide more detail then the 1:100,000 maps how does this impact the redrawing of the map page? Based on experience when using City Navigator, the 24K maps should not have a negative impact on the unit. I would like to hear from a user of the 24K products and U.S. Topo and find out if this assumption is correct.

     

    If I understand correctly the units with older processor-software are not able to take advantage of the 3-D, and shadowing features of the software. If so is it worth purchasing the 24k Topo software?

     

    The routeing feature of the new software is of interest if it works on city streets and back country trails.

    I'm using the microSD 24K in my 60CSx. At the 5 mile scale, the redrawing of an area densely packed with topo lines takes about five seconds. That's the slowest redraw scenario I can find. Anything over 5 miles and the unit reverts to the basemap. Under 5 miles the redraw rate is faster.

     

    You are correct that I can't take advantage of the 3D and shadowing features of the microSD 24K with the 60CSx. To date I think only the Colorado and Oregon series can do this.

     

    The routing feature is cool as you can route along the trails in addition to the streets. Basically the trails are treated just like a street, and a route from start to finish can include both streets and trails in the calculation. In US Topo 2008 the trail routing is only available using Mapsouce while on your computer. In microSD 24K Topo you can route along a trail right on your GPSr, and I think this works with any Garmin GPSr that supports street routing.

     

    I hope I answered all your questions.

  13. Like most everyone nowadays I carry a cell phone that incorporates a camera, an mp3 player, and a schedular/calendar. This makes an easy all-in-one tool that's always with me. The next stage for me will be adding a paperless geocaching gps to the cell phone multi-tool concept. I was reading about the upcoming, but delayed, Garmin Nuviphone. From what I gather this is a street nav type gps. I can't find any specs on it so I don't know if topo maps can be loaded. I also wonder if Garmin will be incorporation any geocache features like in their Colorado/Oregon series. Anyone have any information?

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