MR57

I did my first multi cache. I drove to one location spent some time and found article. Now I have cooridinates to drive to another location and spend some more time locating last article. So now I have spent twice the time and travel and I have only 1 find. Can someone tell me what's the point?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=250702917804 I just bought these. $13 for 12 bison tubes. There great. They have a tiny container for log inside. Very cheap.

Not to mention. I have 26 caches. I have never and will never go around opening my caches and trying to compare the log with the online log. I have better things to do with my time.

Just last night I was hunting for a few caches. I was in a few spots that if a patrol car would have come by I'm sure they would be taking a good look at me. I'm sure the day will come when the cops will talk to me.

I don't look past 20ft radius. Even with that it can be alot of searching. I'm not getting paid for this.

I tell everybody. I love my hobby.

I have 16 caches you'll like. There all within 2 mile radius. Only minutes from the Strip. Check them out. Pinky is waiting for you.

That's 11pm Pacific time. The geocaching.com site or the forum site? If it is the forum site, that is the daily backup that takes place at 11PM Pacific time. The forum site. I'm smiling. Seems to good to be true. Are you playing me? Acutally i just closed internet explorer and reopend and its working great again. I like your answer though. Not playing with you at all. Every day at the same time (11PM Pacific) the forums lock up to do the back up. That takes about 10 minutes, although it was up to 20 minutes not too long ago. Thanks. Sorry I doubted you. That's good to know.

That's 11pm Pacific time. The geocaching.com site or the forum site? If it is the forum site, that is the daily backup that takes place at 11PM Pacific time. The forum site. I'm smiling. Seems to good to be true. Are you playing me? Acutally i just closed internet explorer and reopend and its working great again. I like your answer though.

Yes this situation could have been uglier. I do carry a firearm, but nevertheless it's best to have good verbal skills in these situations than a quick draw. To someone who is that defensive about their territory and doesn't know anything about geocaching, the explanation is going to sound doubly like bull. However, when confronted with threatening speech or body posture, responding with what could be perceived as a return threat or a spin will only escalate the situation. Keep a non-threatening posture, and speak calmly and firmly. Take all insults and don't respond to accusations defensively. Rather, continue explaining your business. Some things inevitably become physical, but by and large if the person encountered isn't planning to use force in the first place it won't get to that point unless provoked to it. Try to figure out what is causing the other person to be aggressive or defensive and work the conversation about alleviating that. After 10 years of working in the prison system, I've learned the best protection you can have is interpersonal skills. I can see your very knowledgeable about this subject. Since I carry my weapon everday it has been very helpful to me. Thank you.

For me, the challenge is finding the cache. Creative ways to hide are appreciated. Once found, I personally don't care a lot about what is inside, if anything. Ditto for me.

That's 11pm Pacific time.

Does anybody else find the site extremly slow every night around 11pm? Seems weird. Just wondering if its just my computer or anybody else having same problem.

Sorry to hear about that. I also have made some nice caches. I also made them Premium only hopeing only serious geocachers would find them. Currently I have 17 caches. So far everyone has taken great care of them. I would be sad if something happened to them. I'm prepared for it though.

I agree. I wish they would loosen the 528ft rule. So we could put pill bottles under every lampskirt in america.

I agree we need to be aware. Listen to your instincts but honestly having a knife would probably just made things worse. Most "questionable persons" have a knack of being able to disarm un-trained people. Having a knife or other weapon can easily escalate a situation that otherwise would have ended quietly. here is a scenario... You (not really you but someone) is confronted, you are nervous and you dont "pull" pull the knife but just feel for it (for reassurance). This subtle movement puts the "aggressor" on edge. they become more confrontational. Then you pull the knife.... It is rare for this kind of scenario to end well. I have heard quite a few stories from my dad who was a LEO for 32 years. All this said...I always have a knife on me and have for over 20 years Hypocritical i know Have you heard the saying "Never bring a knife to a gunfight"

Knife? don't waste your time. What state do you live in? Here in Nev we carry guns. CCW State. Gun beats knife everytime. I never go out without my XD45 especially when I bring the wife. Oops i just checked your profile. New York. Forget about protecting yourself there. No CCW. Law abiding citizens are just victims in these states. LIke Calif also.

I buy industrial glue in caulking tube at Home Depot. Only costs $2 a tube. Very strong.

Really? I found 1 today. 2 DNF.

I never like going to a cache that doesn't have decent parking. When I plan a hide, good parking is always a consideration for me.

Not a good idea. I guess I would be the exception. I just reached 100 finds yesterday. Yet I have 16 caches that are some of the best in my area. When I set cords. I average at least 2 minutes down to at least 9ft. Most of my ideas didn't come from the 100 finds. Some did.

Can't speak for Canada, but here in California most ammo cans are hidden under a bush. Now certainly of the things that many of us old timers like is figuring out how to get to the cache. A good cache in the wilderness will seldom be one you can follow the arrow to. You need to look at the terrain and figure out the route. For many urban caches you can just put the coordinates in an auto GPS and get turn by turn instructions. Even driving around the block a few times looking for the right parking lot to pull into isn't so bad as hiking 1/2 mile down the wrong trail to realize you have to go back and take the other fork to get near the cache. So I will agree that there are other challenges involved in wilderness caches that you don't find as often in urban hides. I have 16 caches now. I try and make each one unigue,clever and different from the last one. I've gotton many positive comments. 15 of them are all within 2 mile radius so most people do the series at one time. But each cacher has different challenges that they like and some like looking for a tiny nano on a long metal fence or a bison tube in a hole drilled in a rock and placed in a pile of rocks. My guess is that nowadays there are more people who like the challenging micro than the challenging hike. There are certainly those who like easy urban hides who may be accused of caching for the numbers. I accept that there are different cachers who like different kinds of hides. I'll go farther and argue that more popular hides are hidden (and found) more often. Still I'm not too disappointed, there are far more cachers who like the hiking type caches that I like then there use to be, so I'm not running out of them because there are more urban micros. While there are a higher percentage of small and micro caches among those hiking caches than there used to be, it doesn't bother me because I happen to enjoy looking for them. Also, since the state parks instituted rules that caches have to be within 3 feet of designated trail, it has become harder to find places to put a regular cache that won't get muggled. So in fact small and micros are a bit of a savior in allowing caches to continue to be hidden in the state parks. My feeling is that more options in cache sizes and hiding styles is good for the hobby. They allow caches to be hidden in more places and let more people get involved in geocaching. No longer is everything a hike in the woods and no longer is every cache under a bush or a pile of sticks. I'd bet that most people like variety. In fact most of the complaints I hear about parking lot micros are about lack of variety. So I accept that there are some "lame" micros because that is just one variety. There are so many good micro hides, along with smalls and regulars, that I can have fun even on day where I might wind up a few times looking under lamp post in parking lots. But since I am able to find places to hike where there are no lamp posts and find cache there, such days are rare. (Sometimes I will find a fence post or even an old guardrail on a now abandoned road with a typical urban micro hide, but I still enjoy it because I got to hike in an interesting area where these relics of the past are hidden).