Shawn&Holly

I get picked on by my local reviewer every day

Most important rule is to use a container with air holes, this also allow water to collect so they will not be thursty. We also have a mouses cache

Hhhhhmmmmmm, never thought of trying a confined radius search by date, have only done a province wide d/l at one time. With 7604 caches in 1 large province and 8379 in the other rather large province, I live right on the border, I stopped by date as I don't need 90% of those. I do live in one of the more cache dense areas mostly on the quebec side. One back draw of doing so by date will be paperless, instead of where I am and cache type, I would have to load a GPX file by guessing the date parameters. The LapTop would be ok running GSAK or watcher as I can combine my GPX files and it loads quickly, but my old PDA is really slow loading with a 500 cache GPX file as it is and does not reconize a GSAK generated GPX file. Cache placement has exploded here lately with 500 traditional caches within 25km (15 miles) and 500 (that is also active unfound Traditional caches only) in 13km (8 miles) from near the point I found myself without any traditional caches. We did the multi cache and when I went to log it, noticed we passed 2 traditional caches and was surprised I missed them, turned out they were just outside the bubble.

My Thursday PQs indicate they were generated but never arrived (dang, just as I was trying to shore up my PQs for missing areas), not my ISP as todays PQs did come in. They were scheduled, but after I noticed a hole from reduced radius, I wanted to move my centers to get the local area I usually cache, I turned them all off, then checked them back which is when I discovered the "My Finds" count as part of your 5 if you get your "My Finds", then 4 and try to check one more. An application to call and then d/l would work as long as there is no delay from the request to generation of the GPX file.

Just a suggestion to add a radius circle or footprint on the Google map for a PQ when doing a point PQ from a waypoint/co-ordinates or postal code. With the explosion of caches in and around my regular haunts, I found myself without caches in an area that should have had caches this past weekend. I am finding my PQ radius getting smaller and smaller, with the size of the provinces, I prefer getting my PQ from a certain area, but it is taking 5 PQs now for just the local area and I am having difficulty knowing if I missed an area. Right now I am looking at the google maps and panning for the edge, I don't know how to do a radius circle on maps, but this would just need to take a radius of the last cache further from the center and draw a circle. Something I will have to play with, but having this right on the preview with google maps would be a nice addition. My other solution is to find enough caches to reduce my local PQ needs to 1, but my wife is not finding that viable

Oblicated to just throw a cache out there, no, this is something that we were actually critized on when we first started, finding but not placing. We place caches we want to place in places we want to place a cache in when we want to place a cache, if it were a requirement in a ratio, I don't think I would be happy about it. To find a cache, someone needs to hide caches, but if you are just going to toss out caches, then you should think about why you are placing caches, for enjoyment or feel obligated, if the latter, then you should rethink why you geocache.

I believe it would be extremely hard. I think that's why it couldn't be done before. Have you seen some of the "limiting" questions and strict rules for certain Categories and Waymarks on Waymarking? I don't think it would be that difficult. It was never tried, as near as I can tell. Coming up with a "Wow" factor near the end of the Virtual Cache time on GC.com was not exactly like setting "Rules" in stone. Edit to add appropriate quote . . . I am sure it would not take long to determine the answer is "A A C D B" and you get your virtual to the review portion of the queue, anyone that submits a virtual truely believes their virtual is worthy of listing and will not take no for an answer. I am going to have to check out Waymarking, but I enjoy finding a traditional cache or even a short multi cache when I can, I do admit the LPC caches can be disappointing, but so is finding and having to email Rebok to a virt owner.

"...yes I found some of the sites to be interesting, but would have stopped there had it not been a virt." You likely would not have known about it without SOME sort of cache to bring it to your attention - why not a virt? "I would really hate to be reviewing them and how do you know if it is worthy of a virtual cache," Reviewers don't judge whether any other cache location is 'worthy', why attempt to do so for virts? "Sure you could open them up again, but my PQ is already loaded with local caches, I would hate to have another 1000 virtuals to filter through along with the actual caches out there." Why? You filter them out of your PQ with a single button click, just like any other cache type you don't want to see in your PQ. "I am not going to say Waymarking is the answer, because I have not really tried Waymarking, but bringing them back to geocaching.com I don't think is a good way to go, it would be a step back." I have tried Waymarking, it has failure written all over it. Yes, some of us think it would be good to step back, that the rather arbitrary move to eliminate listing new virts was a mistake. "...yes I found some of the sites to be interesting, but would have stopped there had it not been a virt." You likely would not have known about it without SOME sort of cache to bring it to your attention - why not a virt? I have had traditional/multi/mystery caches take me to just as many interesting locations, generally when we stop to find a cache we check out the entire area. Actually some of the most interesting areas we have explored is due to finding a traditional cache nearby. **************** "I would really hate to be reviewing them and how do you know if it is worthy of a virtual cache," Reviewers don't judge whether any other cache location is 'worthy', why attempt to do so for virts? So you are saying to open it for anything submitted as a virtual, we all know that did not work before so how do you only allow those truely worthy locations when we look at what was submitted when virtuals were allowed. **************** "Sure you could open them up again, but my PQ is already loaded with local caches, I would hate to have another 1000 virtuals to filter through along with the actual caches out there." Why? You filter them out of your PQ with a single button click, just like any other cache type you don't want to see in your PQ. Sure I could filter them out, but as with traditional caches in some areas now, opening up virtuals with no means of truely reviewing them to their location, we would just end up with what most are complaining about Waymarking right now. **************** "I am not going to say Waymarking is the answer, because I have not really tried Waymarking, but bringing them back to geocaching.com I don't think is a good way to go, it would be a step back." I have tried Waymarking, it has failure written all over it. Yes, some of us think it would be good to step back, that the rather arbitrary move to eliminate listing new virts was a mistake. I don't think it was a mistake, I would rather see Waymarking evolve then taking a step back and allowing virtuals again.

I'll add my 2 cents for a no to the return of virtuals, just going through the ones I have found, yes I found some of the sites to be interesting, but would have stopped there had it not been a virt. Also with the virtual logging of the grandfathered virtuals discussed recently because you know the answer or visited in a previous life, I would really hate to be reviewing them and how do you know if it is worthy of a virtual cache, I don't think it would be worth bringing them back. Sure you could open them up again, but my PQ is already loaded with local caches, I would hate to have another 1000 virtuals to filter through along with the actual caches out there. So to cut it short, if I drive by one, I will stop and find it, but don't want to see them return for now virtuals to be added, I am having fun finding a cache container and signing the logbook. I am not going to say Waymarking is the answer, because I have not really tried Waymarking, but bringing them back to geocaching.com I don't think is a good way to go, it would be a step back.

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG, my eyes!!!!!!!!!! Usually we don't feel like a criminal out caching, where do you get a cheeseburger hat, will have to get one for my daughter Having a 1 year old has been great lately as she loves the park and been able to find quite a few lately while caching. Also since spring has sprung and the days are getting longer with the wife back to work, been taking the little one out caching just the two of us. I do get a little self conscious when I drag the stroller into the woods, find the cache and take pictures of the cache and daughter while off in the woods. So far been ok, there were ducks at the last one where we were spotted and we were also looking at the ducks near the cache Still hate to try to explain it to a cop, well you see officer, I was just.....

Are you referring to Google Maps or Google Earth? I have loaded a PQ into Google Earth and viewed it, but if we could do this with Google Maps, that would be way cool! By using the "preview in Google maps" link on the PQ page. Limits it to the PQ size of 500, but I also find it a good method for seeing the boundaries of the PQ by coords center and for seeing caches I have not found yet when other options are not available such as my Apple, if on a PC with MapSource, I load the PQ there.

Going to have to try these as there are a few routes we use that google earth uses that we don't take, therefore I end up making more then 1 route trying to tie start and end points to go the route I want and not the route google earth wants me to take. I have a route for the 401, Windsor to Montreal done here Windsor to Montreal Will have to try your Kingston to Toronto Highway 2 route someday.

Yes, finally! GC1838 - Geocaching Roundup -- Montreal to Ottawa was the first successful Ontario event. Over to you! TOMTEC Wish we could have attended that one, less then a month after we started and one of the closest held to home, yet I did now know about events at the time having only started geocaching with 2 finds and a borrowed GPS. Know most of the cachers in that photo now, great group with some still active.

If you want a new GPS, go for it, my wife has an eMap, she still uses and likes it, I don't. I use an even older GPS, a 12CX, between the 2 we have found a few caches. Would like a new GPS myself, but have some other items on the list to get first as the current selection works well.

Have to agree micro is a size and not type, don't need any more icons on my GPS beyond found, owned, disabled and go find it, type and size is in the description. If it were a type what would I use to describe it? mn, micro nano?, what about multi that is a micro, or would that be mm but then it is 2 types, a multi and a micro so what would be first with my type/size scheme, too confusing, like it the way it is now. I also don't know how this would work with your multi being a mix of micro and regular caches, being a multi you usually do require the cache page to know what you are looking for at the start, a cache or maybe a plaque oh no, a virtual stage.

This is a feature requested even before Google Maps, but now you can create a PQ as a premium member then see that PQ in Google maps with the parameters you set in the PQ, so you can filter out finds/hides as well as see only traditionals or multi/puzzles only, anything you can set with your PQ. I use this quite often before heading out caching to determine where and which caches I would like to do and what is nearby my destination for other non-caching activities to see if I can grab a cache or 2 while I am there.

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Agreed, you did not hide it and you found it, keep the find. We adopted a few caches, 1 we had not found yet and logged that one as a find when we went to check on it, we have adopted them over to someone in a better position to maintain them, but at them time they are abandonded by the owner who was posted overseas and asked for someone to adopt them.

How would you possibly be in the right if you spontaneously deleted logs without warning? It's OK if you want this requirement, but why aren't you willing to make your cache a mystery cache as the guidelines require? Because I have different types of caches, and I think the existing distinction is useful. Anyway, it seems that I am alone on this one I will take the suggestion of just stating something like 'please include some logging text in English an/or Italian'. I never planned to start randomly deleting logs, I was just a bit surprised to see that random log deletions are not in violation of the guidelines, and pretending to receive comprehensible logs would be By the way, for me it was more a respect issue than a linguistic issue. I don't like the idea of people 'using' caches without even recognising that the person that has created it, might not speak their language. thanks everyone for the input! It's been a great help! I don't speak French and most of my caches are in English only, altho I have started, with help, to translate some to include both English and French in the description. I get many logs that in French only and I have no problem with this, I know a few cachers that don't write any English and do not speak English very well, I still consider them friends and would never think to delete their logs because it was not in the language of "my choice". There are also a number of caches here that contain only a French description, I log in English as I would only butcher and babel a French log, I would be insulted if my log was deleted because I cannot speak your language, with or without a warning. I cache in my language and let others cache in their language of choice. Geocaching is about the journey and I am more then happy if someone found and enjoyed my cache in any language.

It's not bait if the owner rushes out smae day coin is dropped. And WHERE IS THE SPORT? Where is the sport in finding your own cache! I think this is where you are making your mistake. The owner isn't "finding" his cache. Finding it implies he doesn't know where it is. The owner is doing a maintenance check. It sounds like you tried to get a limited perspective of how the game should be played validated and it didn't happen. Maintenance check sounds good, did this the other day to swap TBs and coins, once placed in a cache, they should be fair game to anyone willing to pick up said TB or coin to help move it along on its journey.

Yes, if you have a logging requirement, it should be a mystery, personally I like to know what is expected before I find a cache if there is more then find the cache, sign the logbook, log my find online. How many different languages do you get that causes a problem? So if I found this cache with one of my caching partners that only logged in French, you would delete their log, not very friendly in my opinion.

There are a few in the Ottawa in or with a life size hairy Bigfoot arm, skelaton or body by Zartimus that are fun to find. I would be careful to hide these in out of the way places or they could be removed for disturbing others. GC2F1B, The creature of the greenbelt

Then this would be a problem with cacher A, when caught or catching(sic), we usually stayed until the cache was rehidden or made sure we knew where the cache was (usually the other cacher will stay and rehide the cache). I have enough of a hard time remembering where I found the cache in the excitement of finding it when rehiding it that I don't want to have to guess. Heck, I have had a hard time finding a cache I hid when checking up after a DNF, old age and senility, getting the senility out of the way first

Not sure if this is a big issue, I am also unsure what you mean, find a cache, second cacher finds first cacher at site, gets handed cache and first cacher leaves. Usually the timing is never on for this to happen, meeting going to or leaving the cache and even then, meeting other cachers on the trail is still rare but lately has become more frequent as things pick up around my local caching area. I think I have only stumbled upon 1 cacher with cache in hand and been caught once by another cacher (irate land managers don't count). If searching for the cache, we usually join forces to try to find a difficult to find cache, there are a few here that eludes everyone. This past weekend, we approached a cache location and found 2 other cachers already looking, told them my theory as this was a repeat visit for myself and we proceeded to continue looking together. After a bit, 3 more arrived and we all looked but still the 7 of us could not find it. The cache was then verified to be missing by the cache owner the next day At this point it became more about interacting with other cachers, trading stories and making friendships more then the cache as it seems any time we meet other cachers on the trail. We have also done the distraction as another rehides that hard to find cache so we could watch and taunt, geocaching has given us more then numbers of finds, we have met many new people we consider good friends through this hobby and is worth more then the smiley we get.

I'll give it a try 1) 10500 2) 150 Personally 2 1 with 1 unique and the second was also a cache. Confluence hunting is what got me into geocaching.