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I agree with this. (I hope that doesn't contradict something else I've said ) I don't use premium features as much as I used to, but I've never thought about downgrading.

Seems like the insurance of having a premium membership would be cheaper than the cost of the cache. I think it would provide SOME measure of added security, but certainly no guarantee. Also, if it's a difficult mystery cache and a casual app user points his compass at it and finds it without knowing anything about the game, it IS likely to be broken in a month. I'd say spring for a one year premium and have fun!

Are these threads you're starting for a school project or new you tube channel or something?

What does krispe24 say? BTW, you should change your log on the multi to a note until you actually find it.

yes it does and I will

Ah, I missed that. Thanks!

Today I looked for a cache that had several DNF's and an old log that said, "Accidentally dropped it in the water." I wanted to log either a "needs maintenance" or "should be archived" but when I clicked the dropdown list I could only choose found it, did not find it, or write note. When I clicked on "go back to the old way" I was able to choose the other options. I don't recall this being discussed but before COVID-19 days I would sometimes go a long time without looking at the forums. Is this old news?

My answer: "yes"

I've had two interesting logging events happen in the past week. Someone logged a find on one of my caches, "Found but didn't sign due to CV" On a cache that I found that required a strenuous climb up a hill with a fantastic view, someone had logged a find describing the effort needed, the view, the surroundings. But they didn't sign the log. There was only one sig, the FTF. I was the third to find, the second to log. What did I do about these logs? Well, I thought about messaging the finder of my cache asking him to change it to a note. I thought about messaging the last finder of the difficult cache to go back and sign the log, or to write a note to the cache owner describing what I found. In the end... I did nothing on either of them. Folks, these are weird times. If people get a little relief from geocaching, that's a good thing. I'm not going to expend any energy on making them feel bad about how they've chosen to deal with things during this stressful time. This is supposed to be a fun distraction! We don't need cache police shaming people for not doing it the "right" way. I agree that my examples are both examples of NOT doing it the "right" way. But so what? As an aside, my hides are being logged in numbers I haven't seen in years, and I personally have more finds in the past 3 months than I did in all of 2019. This despite being in two of the highest risk groups for CV. But that's another topic...

point taken. I would love to go caching around where you live!

I wish that i had kept track of my LTF's in GSAK. I've been LTF on a number of caches: At least twice I've picked up a bunch of caches at owner's request because they wanted to archive them. At least once I dropped a match box through a hole in some rocks and the owner didn't want to replace it. At least once I was confronted by security in a parking lot and the cache was missing the next day. At least twice I've trashed out broken, soggy messes with absentee owners and suggested archiving (in my early years) Several others I've just noticed that I was LTF and don't know what happened. As I read through this thread, I realized that I'm in favor of just about anything that thins the herd a bit. I wouldn't shed a tear if all powertrails disappeared. I would just yawn and go back to sleep if I woke up and all the parking lot skirtlifters had met their demise. And I've always thought that when a cacher leaves the game and there is a problem with his/her cache, just let it die and let someone else have the space if it's worthy. I do like finding old caches. I've logged a few replacements as finds. But it can get ridiculous. Traveling through New Mexico I looked for the oldest active cache and was excited to see that it was very near Albuquerque. But then I started reading the logs and saw that it had disappeared many years earlier but not archived. People were still reverently posting pictures of a pile of rocks where it had been and claiming a find on the OLDEST ACTIVE CACHE IN NEW MEXICO! Eventually someone did put a replacement container there but to my mind this was a travesty and I didn't bother to go look. I've been thinking lately that nature is trying to tell us we've just gone way too far in a lot of areas. Too many people Too many cars Too many Starbucks And maybe, too many geocaches

Funny how my attitude has changed over the years. Unless it's blatantly obvious that they were never at the cache, I'll let it go. On the other hand, the logs I'd LIKE to delete are the obnoxious block cut-and-pastes, especially the ones that start out, "sorry in advance for the cut-and-paste log" and then a long paragraph about events in their life. Or, "I'd like to thank all the cache owners for taking the time and trouble..." but they can't take half a minute to write a real log. As long as I'm drifting off topic, let me add this: You're not going to catch Corona Virus from touching a cache. You have to ALSO take no precautions. Don't wash your hands or use hand sanitizer. Don't wear a mask or use gloves. Then touch your nose or mouth. The point is, fear of catching CV as a reason for not signing is really not even legitimate.

Here's something not everyone knows: When you are doing your cache page, where it says "a cache by..." you can make up a name. If you click on it it will take you to the account owner, but in the meantime you could list each cache as "by" individual scouts. That's if you prefer to keep them all under one account but still give individuals credit. At least once I have made up a name for a cache hidden on April Fools Day.

I can't resist... I STILL think that!

OK, sorry for all that wasted time. I had no intention of telling a thousand people what they should do. Guess I was improvident after all. mostly, my recent posts have been made out of boredom because my wife told me to stop going outside every day. But I guess I'll find some other way to amuse myself. I am technologically challenged. You wouldn't believe how long it took me to learn to use a Palm Pilot for geocaching. Clyde was my god.

The funny thing is, Keystone is usually on your side of this debate. He has moved more threads out of the main forum to regional forums than probably all other moderators combined. Personally, I like scanning down the list of topics all in one place. Most topics are quickly forgotten and abandoned once they are moved. I agree with all of Keystone's points here. I am very interested in how other parts of the country and the world are handling this crisis.

Being a bear of very little brain, I had to look up the definition of "improvident" so I could understand what you meant. This is from Merriam-Webster: "not foreseeing and providing for the future" which is confusing because that is exactly what I was doing. Then I thought, this must be the first time anyone has EVER made a post that was not a direct comment on the original post, cuz, you know, it's like such a serious and sacred part of our society. Well, it's been over 12 years since I was cautioned or warned about anything by GS, so I guess I'll wait until I hear from them before I consider changing my errant ways.

I didn't realize there was ANY controversy about bumping a thread. I recently bumped a thread so that I would have easier access to it and someone gave it the "surprised" icon. I thought it was obvious why I did it. I didn't think it would cause any issues but then, there are always people just looking for something to be offended by. BTW that's an incredible photo! Thanks for sharing. I'll probably bump it in a year or so just cuz it's so cool!

You think publishing a new cache is more dangerous than the NINETEEN FINDS you posted today? I'm assuming those were real finds, I didn't actually read the logs. Anyway, I went out (In California) today and walked some nice trails and found a few caches. Although major parking areas and larger parks are closed, I found offstreet parking near trailheads and easily avoided coming within 6 feet of the others who were out exercising. I believe responsible geocaching promotes good physical health rather than detracts from it.

Surprised because I don't just bookmark the link myself? Or you don't understand why moving the topic back up makes it easier to find? Or are you wondering if I don't have anything better to do? No. No I don't.

*bump* because I use these links every day

Quite simply, geocachers stole them. And sometimes bragged about it. I remember one story of a cacher who used to bring chains of Jeeps around his neck to geocaching events and MAYBE he would let you discover them. I discovered that one of our own local cachers had stashed dozens of them in his own private inventory. I was lucky enough to find about half a dozen of each of the four years (Yellow, White, Red and Green if I remember correctly.) It was a great promotion that started the year after I started caching. The golden years!

Do you play poker? If so you must be a GTO math guy. I don't want you at my table! But I do get your point.

I would love to be stuck in the year 1999. Although I would prefer '89, or '79, or '69. Yeah! Give me 1969 again!

Another vote for the HQ Geotour. I did them all in one day and literally laughed out loud at some of the clever containers. Ballard district is such a cool area of Seattle. It was a joy just walking around this laid-back neighborhood.