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no, really, i'm just done, but i appreciate the suggestions.

When you're done writing up a waymark and you go to upload pix on your computer, it's set up to find them from your hard drive. From a phone or tablet, it doesn't know what to do.

2011 is the last time I was able to post a waymark. Our computer died but since we had have tablets we never bothered to replace it. Unfortunately when trying to post a waymark from my tablet I couldn't post pictures because the tablet has no C drive. So I waited and hoped one day there would be an app for Waymarking. Since I had created a few categories and am an officer in many others I dutifully paid my membership fee for the past seven years hoping I would one day be able to enjoy posting waymark again. I'm tired of waiting. I'm tired of the emails when something doesn't go right. Etc, etc. How long has geocaching had an app? A while now. So, I get it. Waymarking truly is Groundspeak's red-headed step-child. I get it and I'm done waiting for something that ain't gonna happen. However, unlike others in the past who just disappear, for the categories I started, I assigned new leaders. For any other categories, whatever. I no longer care.

You're absolutely right! 100%. Stupid category. That's right I said it, and I will not take it back. My fingers will fall off before I finished typing the list of stupid categories, but that's just my personal opinion and like BruceS says, ignore them. Fortunately, there are far more interesting things to look out for in this world than a franchise, and a good chance there's a spot to post it @ Waymarking. Having said that, I will admit to being an officer in two franchise categories. The first of which is Hooters, because um, they have uh, really great food. Yeah, that's the ticket... And the second is for Howard Johnson's, because there's only two left, but if somebody finds an old one being used for a different business they can post it, because they had really cool building designs. That, and I miss their clam strips.

Again, I hate to hear that another player gets jerked around over something I probably would think is frivolous. I can understand, as I myself have had my buzz killed more than once. (Ask me about the one and only virtual waymark {long since archived, and rightfully so}). But honestly, I've enjoyed Waymarking since it started, and have been known to push the envelope once or twice. Keep the officers on their toes. One other thing, just so you know, Waymarking is currently going through some major "updates", and there'll be a bit of an adjustment, you might say. But aside from that I do still enjoy what I do. I also wouldn't mind seeing some neon signs of old motor courts, restaurants, and/or bars from the Pennsylvania area get posted. I don't mind admitting I'm quite proud to say, it is the 8th largest category. Anyway, most of us are there willing to help. After all some of us play both games. Now what's this Wherigo???

The short answer. The waymark owner, if the picture isn't a requirement. It seems "Armchairing is a common problem for both games. Unfortunately, it is hard to prove someone didn't actually visit a location if they provide photographic evidence. Sure you can scour the web looking to see if the photo was ripped from another site, but who has the time? A hand written message in a log book is hard to dispute. I know I speak for myself, and a few other waymarkers who enjoy what we do, when I say how sorry I am to hear about the difficulties cachers or newbies have when delving into Waymarking. We enjoy it and wish to see others enjoy it as well. Yes there are some categories that make you jump through hoops while on fire (and sometimes it's hard to tell if the smoke is coming from the hoop or you), but there are many that have been created purely for the enjoyment of finding interesting things and to see others find them as well. If you have a moment please check out any of the categories I've started. I try not to be a hardass. Emphasis on try, mind you. As has been said, we can all have bad days. Now let me just get back to visiting waymarks. Like my Canadian friend Blue Quasar, I'm thrilled when one of mine gets visited, disappointed when there's no pics, but oh well. Personally, I don't make a lot of effort visiting other waymarks. To me, it's like being the second guy to step foot on the moon (which I suppose is contrary to Geocaching, since if nobody visited, why bother hiding a cache). So, let me just say once again, some categories can be difficult. I say avoid them. If you get into it and wonder what's up with the grid, then there's always the one and done policy. Before totally giving up on Waymarking ask yourself what kind of things are you into besides geocaching. If you should find an interest in any of the categories I'm an officer in, shoot me an email, I'd be glad to walk you through.

Sensorship???????????????? No not sensorship. Censorship. Learn how to spell. Then maybe try having something to contribute.

Totally uncalled for. Just curious how people would feel if their camouflage duct tape cover film canister would be found and logged as, "Oh yea, after crawling around for 30 minutes swatting chiggers, inside I found the world's tiniest log book, a nub of a pencil with the tip broken off, and WEE! a keychain. Then I went and waymarked the world's largest figural neon sign. That was awesome!" Seriously, some people have no class.

Then don't read it, read mine. Please. Like I said, this type of behavior is not the norm. Most of us enjoy Waymarking and only wish to see that newcomers do too. Edit: If you take the time to read the thread at the WM forum, you'll see Downy's accuser has been receiving several wet noodle lashes.

Hi there, First, I'd just like to say thanks Downy for visiting some of my waymarks. (yea, there were a couple pix, just so you know). I do hope you'll be able to upgrade your modem some day. Then whatever you've switched it to eventually will seem SO SLOW!!!! Anyway, I would like to say that my family has enjoyed Waymarking since it was reverse caches, and continue to play the game. Yes, we've butted heads many times with many other players over many issues. (I'm starting to think maybe it's us and that we're just that kind of people who enjoy the argument simply for the sake of argument). Either way, it all seems to work out in the end. I would like also to remind everybody that we're all walking around staring at a really small screen looking for things big and small. Whether they're waymarks or caches, it doesn't matter really. We are all playing a game with our neat little pieces of technology and posting our results on a Groundspeak webpage. I think it would help if we try to remember what we all have in common and quit bickering about "the other game". (I hear it from both sides). What happened to Downy is not the norm. Most of the time most of us on the other side are very willing to help make the experience not just pleasant, but actually enjoyable. I'd also like to suggest checking out BruseS' blog which you can get to from the WM homepage. There, he has listed some of the more prolific players. They obviously enjoy what they do and I think you might agree that these same folks are willing to answer any questions. Speaking for myself, I'm one of those WMer's and I do try to help where I can. That said, it doesn't mean I don't occasionally find my knickers in a bunch from time to time. Fortunately, ther are those who are quick to point it out. Thanks for reading my ramble, I hope it's been somewhat helpful and light on the snark. later, Team Farkle 7

You did the right thing by keeping them separate. It allows people to find one or the other based on search criteria and attributes. Eventually we may have 1cm accuracy in GPS receivers and the coordinates will be unique. Who knows? Hey there just to let you know, professional surveyors currently use GPSR w/ that kind of accuracy. Unfortunately, they run for about 50 grand. It'll be interesting to see how long before that kind of accuracy becomes affordable to those of us who can't write it off on their taxes.

Uhm... How about a round of applause for Koko. There are a lot of categories, and a lot of icons. Great work Koko.

RRRRolll up the RRRRim. Let's hear it for Tim.

days are getting shorter, prepping for winter, doesn't leave much time for play. I've a couple places to hit myself if I can find the time. It's nice to be the one to log a waymark, kind of like setting your country's flag on the moon or a new continent, but if somebdy beats you to it, then you can still log the visit. I myself can't wait for the next time I head back east and visit family. Cache Test seems to have nailed just about everyplace I hoped to waymark, but I'll still enjoy showing my wife and child the places I grew up. Oh you'll pay Cache Test, you'll pay! Yeah, idle threat, whatever. I'm just truly glad somebody's marking the places, because I get to "visit" them online. A New Englander gets homesick. So Thanks really. Oh, another thing I noticed in the categories is one for Diners, and I was wondering why they haven't got it approved. It sounds like a good choice to me (but i don't call the shots). Of couse should it become an actual category Cache Test will probably run right out and mark the Paradise Diner. Oops me and my big mouth. One more thing. Tell us more about 2.0 Thanks Nate

I wanted to let people here know that I've started a comprehensive map for quonset huts all over the world. You can add a place, pictures & under the advanced tab you can enter the coordinates. It is http://www.frappr.com/quonsethuthomes I'd like to see us map as many huts as we can find. Then you can see where they are in relative location to you. Jennifer

OK, let's just kill this once and for all. way too many people have gotten worked up over nothing, including some who don't seem to have waymaked in the category. whatever. Sarge was a lark, that got auto-approved, no ones fault. just unfortunate timing. I know ecocyclist would not have approved it, he strikes me as a purist and i can live with that. although I do believe he would have appreciated the humor behind it. Thank you 8 nuts & mother goose and anyone else who got the joke for getting it. ggmorton, may the shwartz be with you. no hard feelings. nate, apology accepted, please in the future to avoid this bs, it might help to let the member know what's going on and why oh, and just out of mild curiousity, is the monastery club still in seattle? jeremy, and Groundspeak, thanks for creating the site(s) i haven't had this much fun since napster. chstress53, please you don't have to tell a buddhist about perfection or its unattainability and thank you for watching over the turtles frivlas & Jake 39, sorry links are to site for yahoo group, my bad. if you do want the pdf's email me through member profile, or join the yahoo Quonset group, where Sarge has a permanent home, or at least until we run out of coal & oil and our commputers shut down. There, I'm done. Now all I have to do now is get my teammate back. Wish me luck. I leave you all with this. -Harvey Farkle Second Place Winner of the Fall 2005 Kansas in Verse Poetry Contest: PARKING By Jim Eighmey Time as it is in our hearts is not that of stars or loams or muddy creeks, but rather the iron something that holds the warm hum of us out before a trunk-full of what we can’t quite throw away; a rising dust cloud moving fast among the locust rows. And memories roll around in there within the front or back pleats at Jackrabbit hill, or in with the tires and cans not quite forgotten and sometimes needed, groped for on warm summer nights. Those roads have left us dust-covered behind gates with their many locks. But there in the glove box is a night behind a Quonset hut when a sunset-burned hood and prairie spread out beneath us and everything, for a moment, was ours.

Like I said before, we have done a good deal of research on Quonset Huts. If you like I'd gladly send you photos of some that were assembled & picked up off the ground by several servicemen and carried to their temporary destination, as well as photos of assembled huts being moved by truck and finally some images of them being put onto large sleds and moved about (mostly in Alaska). Also, in case you ever find yourself in possession of a Quonset Hut, I'd also gladly send to you a copy of its assembling/disassebmling instruction I recieved from the Rhode Island Historical Preservation & Heritage Commission. On second thought, Ill save you the trouble... http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/wNLrRDOv363xA...e%20quonset.pdf http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/wNLrRJERZDTxA...e%20quonset.pdf Team Farkle 7

I think it seemed like a natural progression, first there were caches, then virtual caches, then waymarks, so why not virtual waymarks? I certainly wouldn't be upset to visit a waymark for the kissing mobile and find it was no longer there. Or, a weird story location, and have no paranormal activity occur. And as far as the posting of Sarge goes, the way it was described I can't believe someone would try going to see the waymark, and if they did, maybe then they would get the joke. "Hey wow, we wound up at drive-in, we can still log the visit". As far as belittling the category goes, you should know we live in a Quonset Hut. That was certainly not the intent. Since purchasing our home (a quonset hut), a couple years ago, we have done a good deal of research on them. If it interests anyone, there is a book titled "Quonset: Metal Living for a Modern Age". There is also a lot to be found right here on the w-cubed. Here for example is a quote from the Univerity of Houston's web page called "Engines of our Ingenuity" Today, we build an instant house. The University of Houston's College of Engineering presents this series about the machines that make our civilization run, and the people whose ingenuity created them. As WW-II war clouds gathered in 1941, the Navy knew it would soon face vast problems of moving and housing people and materiel. War is about logistics, and people need shelter. Someone had a bright idea. Why not create a cheap, lightweight, portable structure that could be put up by untrained people? So they went to the George A. Fuller construction company in New York. The Navy wanted buildings within two months. The British had developed a light prefab structure called a Nissen hut during WW-I. Now the Navy wanted an improved version. And they got it: Peter Dejongh and Otto Brandenberger went to work. Within a month they'd set up a production facility near Quonset, Rhode Island. They moved so quickly that they were producing units while the design was still being tinkered. That's how the famous Quonset hut came into being. Some people thought the old Nissen hut had been modeled on Iroquois council lodges. Now the Quonset hut version had the same shape and an Iroquois-sounding name. The Indian connection was probably fortuitous. Still, the resemblance was strong. The Quonset hut skeleton was a row of semi-circular steel ribs covered with corrugated sheet metal. The ribs sat on a low steel-frame foundation with a plywood floor. The basic model was 20 feet wide and 48 feet long with 720 square feet of usable floor space. The larger model was 40 by 100 feet. So we entered the war armed with this cheap housing meant for airstrips, MASH units, barracks -- you name it. Historian Michael Lamm tells how Quonsets were strung together in Guam to form a 54,000-square-foot warehouse. Around 170,000 Quonset huts were produced during the war -- enough to house the combined populations of Portland and Seattle. Then the war ended, and they were too good a resource to throw away. So the military sold them to civilians for about a thousand dollars each. They made serviceable single-family homes. Returning veterans now occupied Quonset huts by choice. Universities made them into student housing. Architects took an interest and gussied them up in odd ways. Churches and small businesses took up residence in them. In 1948 the Sacramento Peak observatory was housed in Quonset huts. Playwright Robert Finton has written a play about them. He titled it Tents of Tin. Drive your streets today and you'll see them here and there. Much more than relics of war, they're icons of a day in our history -- icons that spread all the way from North Africa to the Aleutian Islands. And now, a new memorial museum for war correspondent Ernie Pyle has just been built of Quonset huts. Once in a while, a really good design surfaces -- robust, simple, and enduring. The DC-3, the Jeep, and the Quonset hut are all examples of the clear thinking that was needed to keep us out of serious trouble, back in the 1940s. I'm John Lienhard, at the University of Houston, where we're interested in the way inventive minds work. Now let's see... Quonset huts were designed to be portable. Hmmm... Does that mean if an actual one were to be waymarked it might not be there if some came along to visit it? Chew on that for a bit. Now when we posted Sarge we really didn't think it would be approved (and it didn't matter the drive-in was waymarked already), but hey it was worth a shot. And it wasn't like we were padding our waymarks, we have waymarked a good 3rd of the category's listings already. But what do you know? the people managing the waymark category did approve it. Cool! They must have a sense of humor, maybe even an appreciation for ingenuity!! So needless to say it is a little disappointing to have taken away. Well, anyway I thought the whole idea was for people to be having a little fun. Team Farkle 7