Waterspyder

If you want to detour slightly and come over to Long Island via the New London or Bridgeport Ferry here's a bookmark to roughly 100 kayak accessible caches on the Island. They range from paddles of a few hundred feet to 3-5 mile paddles. http://www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/view.a...90-8ef6118903db

Stumbled across this topic today and decided to give you a benchmark. In a 50 mile radius from my home coordinates there are 2322 caches and a total of 18 diabetes TB's. My house is roughly 60 miles east of Manhattan on Long Island so the 50 mile radius includes parts of southern Connecticut which is roughly 20 miles away across Long Island Sound. Nine TB's were on Long Island the other 9 were in CT. I have no idea how many geocachers there are in the 50 mile radius.

I've bookmarked 103 Kayak/Canoe accessible caches on Long Island. You can see them if you check my bookmarks. To qualify the caches had to be water accessible by kayak/canoe and if on land within 25 feet of water where you could get out of your kayak nearby. The caches range from small narrow streams to open water where seakayaking skill is required. On the ones that are mine I've attempted to rate them by skill level with a K-1 being if you can get in the canoe or kayak without drowning you should be able to do the cache without swimming. Eventually with some help the Peconic Water Trail from Riverhead to Montauk will also be a cache trail. Being Long Island these are not white water caches but we do have some interesting water around here for those who like a challenge.

OH Jeez, more then half of them sound like my caches and MAC's bigger, stronger,faster and younger then me, maybe I should archive them before he gets to me.

Congratulations again PETE, and New York ADMIN (s) if you're out there here's a big THANK YOU for helping us.

Way to go Pete. There should be an additional icon in your profile for all the players you've mentored and addicted to the game along the way. My first find was MAC-32 WARBLER WOODS and since then I've seen some realy great trails along with learning more about chiggers, how many ticks can fit on the head of a pin, how much damage cat briars can do to your face, what looking for tupperware in the woods in a foot of snow is like, how to pretend your talking on the phone while looking like a total idiot sticking your hand behind guardrails, walking in swamp water over the tops of your shoes, burning gallons of gas just to get one more smilie. "Wait a minute you've done that how many thousand times --- what are you nuts or something? " Great job MAC here's to your next thousand finds........

Thanks --- Hey Rozz (Blackbuck) now you've motivated me I'm going to make a 13 part multi the next in my Walkabout series to payback for all those 1/1's and virtuals. Anyone know what the record is for number of parts to a multi?

For those of you living on Long Island there is at least one totally white deer on Brookhaven National Laboratory property -- Yaphank area. May be an albino.

Joe, placed three caches for the LIGO guys yesterday near my house (RCA land). So as soon as NYADMIN reviews them you should have "Gas Price Hike", "Gas Pains" & " Gas Trick Remedies" to go for. To expensive to drive the jeep on the beach today so you'll probably get "Oils Well that Ends Well" up in Rocky Point RCA land placed today too. Bring the bike and you can get all of them from one looooooog bike ride or a killer hike from one parking area. Come to think of it a horse may be a better idea but you'd probably get saddle sore. Placed five new ones close to each other in Mattituck area also for those doing the North Fork. Again up to NYADMIN for when (if) they get approved.

I'm not a marketing genius but I think the regional coins would sell the best. I'd buy a few from each region even the one with the Yellow SCUBA diver about to smack (Break) the EGG with his GPS.

That is a good idea, but it's $1500 per 1000 tracking numbers. That's a lot of cash, not to mention the other expenses. Plus I honestly don't see 4000-5000 coins selling. Past experience shows that no coin here has ever had that much demand. That's the whole point. We wouldn't have to order 4000-5000. There would be one NY geocoin order of 1000. 250 will have the Finger lakes on the back, 250 will have the Statue of Liberty, 250 will have the Montauk LH, 250 would have Niagara Falls... then we can keep going if we want. If The Capitol Region wants there own coin, they can have 250 with the AA Battery on it, the Adirondack can have a coin with some mountains and pine trees. The possibilities are endless and the cost shouldn't be prohibitive. You've got it Joe. With the number broken down to around 250 of each it should be a fairly easy sell for each region. I can see the Long Island one selling out fairly easily and the other regions should do as well. If there were more than four regions the number needed to be sold by each region would drop even further.

They wouldn't be tracked separately by GEO inc. they would have one group of numbers but if the number series had a distinguishing sub - characteristic based on region each cacher could track the coins they located by region. As far as GEO inc. would be concerned all coins in the series would show as a NY geocoin and they would only have one icon. Start the coin number off with NY and even the dumbest computer could log the coin as a NY geo coin doesn't really matter what number follows. It would be up to the cacher if they wanted to track coins any closer based on the coin number. I'm not really hung on the numbering part so if it doesn't work no big deal. But I think the concept of different backsides solves the issue of everyone wanting a different thing included on the coin. As far as the price I visualize each region that wanted a coin picking up the cost of dies for back side of the coin. Some group wants the Hudson River on the back side they have to put some skin in the game and pay for the Hudson River die...

Thanks Joe, here's the idea - go with a common face on the coin, the face would have the coin number etc... so GEO Inc. would only be tracking one series of coins for us. Then the back side of the coin could be regional. While it would cost more for the extra dies for the back side the overall number of coins sold should be higher. Think "state quarters" the front is common the back is tailored to the state. Visualize a "Finger Lakes" region back, NYC back, Long Island back, Adirondacks Peaks region back ectecera. They become instant collectors items since everyone would want one of each region or to log one from each region, Seems like the extra cost of the dies would be offset by the higher number of coins sold. A little working with GEO Inc. on the numbers part for example the Adirondacks coin could be numbered something like ADK 101, Finger lakes FLX 101 --- you get the idea and then you could track if you found one from each region. If that concept works out phase two would be a regional coin - say something like the MID-Atlantic states coin. Follow the same logic for the back of the coin and now you've increased the market "X" fold for the coins and added a whole new collectors/finders series. Like I said on the LIGO forum it sounds to logical so there must be an error in my thought process so poke holes all you want.

Looking good so far. Just how come that one building looks like a giant AA battery?

Done. Print. Actually, if I really wanted to nit pick.. those look like the Canadian Horseshoe Falls. The picture of the falls should probably be the American falls in New York. I probably would have noticed but I just came back from there last week. I like the "final" "Last" and hopefully "penultimate" design it looks a lot cleaner and I think represents New York state to the rest of the world. Wouldn't have a clue what the Albany skyline looked like and I was only there a couple of weeks ago so if the NYC skyline is going to be replaced I vote for Joe's tree with maybe a troll underneath it to represent Joe searching for a cache. .

The back of the coin still looks like it was sponsored by the Finger lakes Chamber of commerce. Geez if you're going to put something so prominent in the middle of the coin make it something the rest of the world recognizes. Could someone just buy the front half of the coin the back looks like ......

Had no idea what FLX stood for and it stands out like it's the most important thing on that side of the coin. Great region of the state but not the way it should be represented. If you're going to put FLX why not a stray cat to represent the Catskills, or an old leather shoe to represent the leatherstocking district or a trout to represent the great fly fishing on the upper Delaware. It's nuts to try and single out one area; go with the four corners and if you want to put something in the middle put a tribute to the WTC....

Great job Joe, and thanks for all the caches you've placed out there.