Coldgears

So now you're hating on people who cache with a GPS? I have a Blackberry, I just don't use it for geocaching because I have a GPS for that. What is so hard to understand about that? The way I see it? If you want a Smart Phone, and also want to geocache. Then a Smart Phone does the job of a handheld GPS, and better. However, if you just want to go geocaching, a handheld GPS is your best bet because of all the money a smartphone cost you in the long-run. In this case, he wants a smartphone anyway, so why not steer him in the right direction?

Please don't hide that anywhere close to civilization that looks way too much like a pipe bomb Nonesense, my local reviewer handed to me personally a piece of PVC pipe with two other pieces of PVC pipe attached to the sides, as a geocache to be hidden.

Coldgears to the rescue! Yes, use smartphones for geocaching. I have used both, and I guarantee everyone spotting nonsense about smartphones being worse have never owned a smartphone beyond WP7 and Iphone. Yes, the GPS in Iphone sucks, yes the GPS in WP7 sucks. Get android, and laugh as other people use pocket query's. I have first hand experience with both....

Part of the geocaching.com website sure, obviously a part of it. Part of the activity called geocaching it is not. Benchmark hunting is an old hobby, and is just listed here to provide an easy way to access them. I really think true letterboxes should be listed here, they should work a deal with Atlas Quest to place them hear. No find count just like Benchmarking. Honestly, though? Letterboxing is more of a geocaching activity then Bench Mark Hunting, Letterboxing is what got me into geocaching.

The dirt, mud, ticks, and bugs are the best parts. It's almost as though you guys never been in the woods before geocaching... I've been in the woods since the age of 6. In fact, I just visited my childhood, "Playground" (100 - 150 acre set of woods by my old house) with my childhood "Playbuddy" (my best friend, who geocaches with me). I jumped over a hill and over a stream, falling straight into a mud pit, and couldn't help but be happy with the pain and mud. I had to walk in 2.5 feet deep water to cross an even bigger stream. Bushwhacked 200 feet through stickerbushes. We walked through a mud pit and I lost a shoe. Got hit with spiderwebs, had a few crawling on me. Sat down in tall grass for a minute while bugs ants crawled all over me. This was all to get to my bike, which I left at his grandmom's. I could've taken the *ROAD*, but this way is much more fun. We do this every other day, except now, due to the fact we have bikes, and are allowed to go farther, we do this in new and different woods. And geocache! But, we still get muddy, buggy, wet, and the more pain we experience by the end the better! How are you guys just *NOW* figuring out your wives/husband's dis-taste for the woods. You've never gone... Errm, hiking without geocaching being a carrot on a stick?

You lost me here. The benchmark was never "hidden".

A benchmark is just a circle in a ground used by surveyors. Finding one has nothing to do with geocaching. At all... Benchmark hunting is a hobby, and is a legitimate one, might I add. But, If I was to see your Xbox Live gamerscore on Geocaching.com I wouldn't give two Zimbabwean billion dollar bills. Why, because video games have nothing to do with geocaching. Neither does benchmark hunting. You could argue that benchmarking is much more Similar to geocaching, then say, video games. Now, what about metal detecting. Should there be a count of gold rings you found on the beach on geocaching.com? Should we display letterboxes? Orienteering? Mountains Scaled? Anytype of outdoor activity? No... Not at all...

I cant be the only one solicited for geocaching by family/friend's. People think that they can just sign my name like a souvenir and I can log a find. This has no happened once, but multiple times. My mom offered it to me when she went to North Carolina, my Sister on her trip to Alabama (I doubt she would've, she said Alabama was crap since the day she got out of Birmingham INTl.), my dad in Lousiana, my friend going to Florida, my Grandmom to Italy... Omg, It's crazy how many people think they can just, "Pick me up a cache" as a souvenir. Anyone else get these offers?

Yes, it's not copyrighted. Feel free to throw out the container. It is trash now.

This is a big problem with reviewers, they archive caches that are there because a owner disables it to check on it, and never enables it, or wrong NA/NM logs. In fact, I have a list of caches within 30 miles of my home location of caches that are archived but still probably there. I have nearly 300, and it just keeps growing. Other then reviewers, there are plenty of other reasons i've seen, one time I found a BIG STASH of archived caches, nearly 16! What happened was a police officer caught a geocacher, and he archived all his other caches. I found another BIG STASH when someone moved from one place to another and just archived them. Numerous other reasons. Sometimes I'll sit home for hours and just build my list of archived caches that still have a possibility. I list the reasons I think it was archived, and I have 3 possible determination, depending upon how likely it is to be there and/or it is going to be in terrible condition. Most of them are throw-aways when doing a search. EDIT: My list is private, if you want a sneak-peak in I can due so via E-mail.

So, you don't agree with the notion that going to a particular spot, as established by GPS coordinates, and performing some task should apply to your find count? That's fine, if you feel that way. I'm just curious why you didn't feel that way when you logged a find on an earthcache. Didn't that require that you go to a place, established by GPS coordinates and perform a particular task? Seems a bit contradictory... It took me a while to ponder this, as I too will willingly do virtual caches and earthcaches, but I REALLY want to delete my finds on the only two challenges I did. Here's why I personally don't want them to contribute to my find count. Mainly, the lacks of question answering, and the fact that ANYONE can make one. Every single virtual I log, I feel comfortable that it is reviewer approved as being a great location for a virtual. With these, anyone can make them, it's a virtual in which the community decides. I don't like this. One day it could be great for the community, and stay there for years, over time people may decide they don't like it and get it archived. Just doesn't feel as... Legitimate... I'm sure this is purely some sort of mental thing, but I sense it none-the-less.

Do you also armchair other type listings to increase your finds? Many of us like the challanges, but people like you that are not willing to ignore them are trying to disrupt our fun. I think that you should respect others and let us enjoy our challanges. No, not armchair logging. Retroactivly logging challenges I have done before someone posted it on the website.

You ever hear the expression, "Give an inch take a mile"? Yeah, that's what has happened. First of all, you never needed permission for a virtual on NPS land. Second of all, one of the biggest complaints against earthcaching is the fact that you need permission to "place" one. Groundspeak didn't make the rules for earthcaching, nor do they enforce them. NPS already banned Traditional caches. Not much more they can do, if they don't want a container on there property, that is there right. When it comes to publishing coordinates to a landmark? NPS CAN'T prohibit someone from going on there land just because the coordinates were published online, whereas they have thousands of other people at the same spot daily, i'm sure one more person doesn't make a difference. If NPS doesn't want you at that spot on there land... They will post a no-trespassing sign. Otherwise, going to the spot is a free-for-all.

I think you are missing the point, the point is basically a creative way of saying, "what would you do differently". Suggestions are generally limited to what you think Groundspeak *MIGHT* do. The way this thread is set up, the sky is the limit, not Groundspeak.

Hi Tracybug! Hey, yeah, there's not too many of those in "our area". We've found one. I knew what it was beforehand, but didn't tell my husband. It's a hoot when you find the ammo can. I wouldn't put anything in the name to give it away. Or on the cache page. But that's me, eh? I agree, but do tease them a bit. Tell them it is, "an ammo box". But don't tell them the size.

Yeah, I didn't mean it as an insult. Creative caches are regional. I've seen nearly 20 of those fake electrical plates attached to a lamp post, or those things that measure electricity. However, in some area's they are unheard of. On the same front, I've only ever seen one fake fence post cap, so a few more of them could be needed. If you don't have any in your area, go for it! My first one was great!

I gave them a chance. And people from Belgium, the U.K., Scotsland, and get to flag and downvote my challenge into oblivion. No, but seriously. These *are* meant to be a joke. But, I wouldn't doubt it if someone took them seriously. Which is why I wanted to make sure I couldn't be legally charged. I guess I won't do it then. See, the thing is, geocaching isn't family friendly, you can have caches in Nuclear Reactors, in the middle of crime ridden parts of the city, up mountain sides, up trees, in sewage dumps. All is permitted. The difference is, with a challenge you are telling someone to do something. With a geocache, you are telling them there is something there, and it is UP TO THEM to figure out how to get to it. I don't see why I would be banned, I thought the whole point of challenges was to put the people in charge of moderating them in the hands of the community, not Groundspeak. I have a huge fear of getting permanently banned... I have put so much time and effort into my geocaching account, with pictures, logs and everything. I already have two Temp bans from the forums, so a Perm ban really worries me. I will hold off on these challenges until I have confirmation that Groundspeak won't ban you for something that the community *was* supposed to moderate.

I think it would be funny to set up a whole bunch of ridiculous and dangerous challenges. I want to do one where you have to act like you are selling drugs in the most dangerous street corner in the city. I also want to do another where you have jump over a moving car. I think these could be fun challenges for many people. It's going to be a series like the Physco Urban Caches, except its going to be Physco Urban Challenges. I plan on making one every day for a month, or until I run out of ideas. However, many of my ideas I am coming up with are quite dangerous, while still technically being legal. (The drugs won't be real, and I will state the car must be a friend, and the coordinates will take you to a back alley where your stunt will not harm any one.) can possibly kill you. Could I be charged legally for suggesting that people do these things? Thanks!

Geocache Information for User: Ambient_Skater No hides have been recorded. And the plot thickens...

"A "creative" cache I bought off the internet". Or. "You've probably seen hundreds of these". Nah, Just Kidding. I've seen at least 15 of these caches so far. Good the first time, but really become "meh". Anyway, i've never seen anyone give them a creative name, they usually do a small mention in the description about how its an ammo box without giving away the size.

Lets assume I don't want to put out these caches, can I give them away to people at events, and make them sign an agreement to place it out there? I wouldn't mind hiding one, or two. But I perfer ammo boxes for caches in the woods. And I like film cans for my lamp posts/guard rails. So these dont do much for me. Getting more finds though? I love that! Maybe I should make an event and raffle them all off?

Just curious, because I think the whole idea is ridiculous. I just plan on virtually visiting locations on the map, and saying I've been there to increase my find count. (Places I've actually been, so if a challenge involves you talking to a stilted man at Virginia Beach I can get a smiley on my couch because I did it before challenges were added). Anyone else not actually going to go out and do any of them? Anyone who will actually do them? I think this is a unique thread, because it is not about discussing whether you like them and/or what could be improved. Rather, will you actually do them, regardless of if you like them. (I like the idea immensely, but don't want to spend my time doing them)

I created a challenge at the mast site for airships in the Tokyo area. It is city property that makes it hard for a traditional cache. But the requirement is for the acceptor to have a pic of themselves with GPS. This is definitely a location based cache requiring them to be there. But once accepted could someone photoshop themselves into a pic for the shot and how do I go about calling fooey on the logger if they do fake the completion? Also on a different note what happened to the dates for caches found? Forget photoshopping, lets upload a photo of Pee Wee Herman, same find, less effort.

I really want to drive down to the liberty bell to do the worldwide challenge for most recognizable landmark near you. But I realize I would get the same smiley for just doing it on some stupid thing within a 5 minute walk from my house... EDIT: Nobody saw that...

Do you think using the above will help educate all the Britains, Germans, Australians, Iraqians and such who feel the need to downvote?