Ok so those are a little bulky! lol I'm just trying to find an easy and lenghty way to achieve my goal, I didn't mind spending the 30 bucks for digital cam and if it does get walked away with i'll feel bad but i won't feel like i've lost a months savings. The goal of the cache will be to be taken to as many baseball parks as possible, pro or otherwise, and log as many miles as possible, so the way i'm thinking is people will be more inclined to carry a smaller item than a larger item, being i have to attach a tb tag, camera, and envelope i'm wanting to keep the size small so its not cumbersome to take it to its assigned places. I don't think many people would drag an old tire to a ball park! lol