Dogboy40

I'd like to submit a sub-category for the "Ruins" category. My wife and I visited two different sets of Mayan ruins in January. One was listed but the other was not. I tired to make the second one a virtual, but due to Geocaching rules, was not able to get it approved.

When I used to go to team roping events with a buddy of mine, I can remember several of the ropers who looked like that towards the end of the night. The only difference was that they DID have a bottle in their hands.

Hey, Painter I read in your log of "GI #10" that you and your brother used a "clever way" of returning the cache. Care to let us know what you guys did so we might be able to use it in the future if we're faced with a similar situation?

I guess with the Hockey strike going on why not combine Football and Hockey?! This is going to be a fun game to watch!! Reminds me of the "Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field"! Edit: Funny Avatar Dogboy! Thanks Gator. I figured it fit my personality AND my looks. hehehe Yeah, it should be a good game. I think all of us working will be taking our lunch break at the same time today here at the station.

Yikes! Nice thread recovery though! Is that a footbal field or a hockey rink? That's toooooo cold!!!

I agree with you Gator. These people are nuts and seriously demented. According to Mrs. Dogboy, I'll fit in just fine.

Interesting! My opinion is that cachers should remove caches from any location that is a security risk. Seems like common sense to me. But I guess common sense isn't so common! Tailgators, You're right on that one. If common sense was common, I'd be out of a job. I've dealt with people that see nothing wrong with doing things that most people would find extremely dumb. That's why they have all those TV shows with the videos of people doing dumb stunts, running from the cops, and the like. Maybe some of them know what they're doing is dumb, but they just want they're 15 minutes of fame. Dogboy40

Hey all, I'm brand new to caching (like four or five days since I found the Geocaching website) I haven't read all of the posts of this thread and others that have dealt with this situation. But as a current "county mountie", I decided to throw my two cents in. And let me say from the start, I don't claim to be an expert on what happened and am not saying that anything that anyone else has posted is wrong or incorrect. This is just my opinion on what i have read and my knowledge of the law. So, if you don't agree with what I'm about to say, that's OK. It's just a difference of opinion. Based on what I have read, I think that the officers detained Lemur and, as Lemur has said, they had a right to do so. Technically, Lemur had violated the law. He was trespassing in an area where he shouldn't have been. As to how well it was posted, that might have been an issue for the lawyers to argue if the situation had ended up in court. I know from my 20+ yrs in law enforcement, I have come across people who (by the letter of the law) were trespassing. But after speaking with them and using my cognative reasoning device (aka, my brain) I realized that these people were not criminals (by the spirit of the law). Lemur had pointed out that the officers did what was necessary and reasonable in this incident to determine what he was up to. It's unfortunate that he had to spend several hours with them in order to clear it up but sometimes the wheels (and brains) of justice move slow. The locals did what they needed to do to make sure Lemur was who he said he was and he was doing what he said he was doing. The the Feds came in and they wanted to make sure everything was on the up and up by their standards. Put yourself in their positions. Would you like to be the officer or agent who let a terrorist go after sort up checking on his story, only to have him hijack a plane or some other act that killed innocents? And then the media finds out? My hat is off to Lemur for how he handled the situation. He acted responsibly and with tact, even when he got some badge heavy jerk who wanted to try his "bad cop" routine out. Just because some officer is a jerk (yes, there are some of them out there), doesn't mean you should return in kind. And you will gain a lot of respect from the other officers there who know the one guy is a jerk and probably don't like him anyway. Anyway, I've rambled on enough. Lemur, If you still have the Travel bug that needs to make it to Disneyland, I'm taking my daughter there within the next month. E-mail me if you want me to escort him there. Dogboy40