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Thanks for setting that up, djdiggla Donation page for tz2008u: http://www.gofundme.com/Zachary

mapsend lite is what i am using, but there is no control center option under geocaching (at least on mine). i read through the help section and it doesnt seem like you can edit cache listings, only waypoints and routes. guess i will need to DL something else to use.

we've missed out on the whole machiavellian angle - presuming that this was indeed a way to get rid of something that he considered an affront to nature, its okay for him to take the vigilante approach? would an intelligent, sane person not want to work within the law by petitioning to have geocaching made illegal? is everyone okay with PETA throwing blood on furcoats and ALF freeing (and damaging research facilities in the process) animals being experimented on? both have noble ideology, but both perform criminal acts in order to further their agenda.

Yeah, and maybe he should lose everything important to him because of that little mistake. Or, so says you, anyway. You were doing so well for a while. You actually managed to control your aggression, for the most part. But when you say that someone should lose his family and his job because of this, you have exceeded even the bounds that I have set for you, and that is saying something. how is what he "alledgedly"did a little mistake?

we can know how the AF responds to similar circumstances similar circumstances? and how do you know exactly how the AF responds? first hand experience? we don't know anything yet but people are willing to let this guy get divorced, lose his job, for what, a game piece? where is the logic? unless you guys are perfect, quit throwing stones. unbelievable. i would say from reading news items of what happens to government contractors with security clearance when they get arrested. we do know some things by the three different reports of the incidents (or else this is a really elaborate prank) and people are free to speculate on what will happen - for the most part, it seems to be a key component of the 'sport' of internet message board trolling for a game piece? i think i speak for most when i say more people would have the same attitude as yourself about one game piece, but this was in the thousands. but even in the case of it being just one game piece, IF he broke the law, he deserves whatever punishment the courts handout.

i would think $500 is an insult to cachers in the area

i'd also like to question why it took him at least 4 years and only after an arrest for him to educate himself on the 'sport' he was so dedicated to ruining?

we can know how the AF responds to similar circumstances

Congrats!

The question is what the definition of abandoned is. I say that a cache is not abandoned it is cached. Thus the name geocache. But that is just my opinion and I do not set legal precedent. First, thank you for posting this. You made my day. Caches can fit the defintion of abandoned property, save for the simple fact that they are not abandoned. They don't meet the spirit and intent. Ignoring that, I worked with an Assitant US District Attorney when we were having issues and he was ready and willing to cite the laws the police would need to make a charge stick. This isn't a felony, so it won't have priority in the system, but it's still against the law. Maybe we will get lucky and get some follow up on his side of the story, plus the final outcome. I swear the engineer types are the worst. funny, my dad is an engineer and i tend to date them, but today a software engineer crashed a plane into a building here in Austin, a couple of miles down the road from my work. Thankfully no one else was killed. There was a cache in the parking lot, too. Guess I won't get a smiley for that one.

have a magellan 500. when i do a pocket query and save to the unit, it wont save caches with similar names (for instance, trying to load sodoku top center, sodoku top right, and sodoku top left would result in the GPSr only loading one of the three - i assume this is because of a limit on the number of characters allowed in the name. i tried to edit the cache names in Maplite, but could find no way to do so. also couldnt see how to load them by cache ID (altho i can view that). what am i doing wrong?

awesome, congrats!

cool, thanks

prolly a dumb question, but if someone deletes your log, do you lose that find?

that is correct

I don't think it is acceptable using the symbols except for the fact that I didn't want to repeat you. Normally there are filters in place but it appears that they aren't working at the moment. At any rate it is much better to avoid such outbursts in the first place. again, my apologies. i have seen plenty of faux-curse words used on here so i wrongly assumed it would not be considered an 'outburst'.

i honestly didnt know (no, i didnt read ever T&C) and dont see the point of it being okay to use symbols or misspellings but not the word even tho everyone knows what word it is (plus, i assumed a board with this much traffic would have filters set up).

my bad. i live and learn.

im already jaded as to how much trash caches there are, but i look at it as nice way to let the kids have fun, good to introduce new people to things, and a good learning experience for myself. my gripe here is that people dont say - hey, that idea has been done, make sure you make it interesting by doing x, y, and z, instead of "all caches like that suck". ive been posting on message boards proficiently since the 90s and all kinds of boards denigrate into a horde of angry @##$%&* and i myself have participated in that a lot, but i dont get why a site like this which is supposed to be educational and not snarky seems to have such a negative nelly attitude****. ****be sure its only some posters, there is lots of great info and discussion in amongst the muck****

one thing i will say about LPC - on my first day out caching we had no idea what we were doing. couldnt figure out how to use the GPSr, so started mucking about using maps and clues. managed to find 3 with no problem. when going for the 4th one we were at a loss. going off the logs and the title of the place we thought for sure we knew where it was but couldnt find it. now, any seasoned GCer would know exactly where it was. messed around with the GPSr and figured out how to watch the coordinates to get close. it moved us about 50 feet from where our misguided geosense told us to go. at that point we started another search of the correct ground zero and after a while noticed you could move the skirt. we were triumphant and then completely hooked on the sport. when i got home and talked to an old school cacher, she told me how common and annoying they were. i was crushed. but dadgum it, we figured it out ourselves. most ideas have probably been done and overdone, but there will always be people that it will be new to.

Hey, I agree with you. A NIH hide isn't imaginitive but clever can be disguised as a NIH hide. An example based on the image above. You create a magnetic bottle cap cache and stick it to the wall in the alleyway. People would think that it's a bottle cap on the ground when it's completely out in the open all by itself. Also, like LPCs. I like to hide caches CLOSE to the obvious spot. So a cache near a lamp post would actually be something else. See the lamp post in the parking lot and drive by? OK, it's your loss because the cache wasn't UNDER the lamp post skirt. thank you for some vaildation. the reason why i even ask things on here is to get a better idea of what is and isnt appreciated, but there is an awful lot of people that dismiss an idea categorically. i have not placed any caches as of yet, because i dont plan to have 300+ caches laying around that suck. you wont ever see my name associated with mediocracy. which means you may never see me actually hide a cache.

again, jaded. did I say that is what i was going to do? i would like to do a bottlecap themed container, but i wasnt planning on just chucking it out there in the middle of the alley.

you can certainly tell how jaded people become after they find a few hundred caches, but i would like to say that not all noobs are idiots and could actually come up with some clever hide that may appear to be like looking for a needle in a haystack when it isnt.

i was really hoping this was going to be about beer bottle caps (altho the instructions given are appreciated, but i am going to figure out how to make a hide suitable for Bottle Cap Alley in College Station, TX - that's about 40 years of bottle caps that make up the ground here:

34, 39, 5, 11 (and all the 11 year olds friends we have dragged along with us love it)