cwgrizz

More research accomplished. Someone back in Oct last year logged a DNF and then stated that they had placed a replacement log at the coordinates. Aargh!! Some subsequent cachers reported the nice new log to sign while others said the log was almost full. Huh! I think the mystery is solved as to the reason for the two logs. Also in all fairness to the person who added the bogus log, they were new cachers and still only have 6 finds listed to date. I have decided to add to the online log not another "find", but a note that I did actually find the real cache today and signed the real log. Thanks for all who have responded.

Just to clarify.............the 1st log sheet I found and signed was definitely a BOGUS log sheet placed less than 5' from (above) where the actual cache was hidden. It was not a cache from some other web site or a letterbox cache. Whoever had placed the bogus log had put the name of the cache on it, etc. When I informed the CO they checked it out and removed it. I guess it is easier for someone to make a bogus log sheet and hide it than it is to find the actual cache. Actually I think someone really thought that they were helping the cache owner replace a possibly missing cache...............but who really knows what there intentions or motives were in the bogus log sheet. To be more specific on the cache and also the bogus log sheet. The actual cache was a magnetic nano hidden very well. The bogus log sheet was just a paper hidden under a weather cover on a light switch. The light switch cover had signs of glue where a baggie might have been attached which may have given the impression that at one time it held the log. Anyway, I found both.

OK, here is the scenario. Went looking for a cache and found a log sheet hidden with the cache name on it and some signatures. Signed log and later logged it in as a find. No problem, right? Anyway after reading some of the other logs, I began to think that the log I found was not the actual log for the cache, so I contacted the CO who verified that in fact the log I found was placed by someone other than the CO. The CO thanked me for the info on the bogus log and said they would remove that sheet. I decided to go back to the site and find the actual cache, which I did. Now what should be done? 1. Log in another find on the same cache. 2. Delete the first find log and log in the second find of the real cache. 3. Ask the CO how they would like me to handle it. 4. Flip a coin. Ha! TIA for all opinions

To get to the units setup on the eTrex HC go to the map screen. Hit the menu button, then when a menu comes up hit the menu button again to get to the main menu screen (Satellite ... setup etc choices. Highlight setup and then go to Units. On the next screen you will see units at top. Select it and change it to hddd°mm.mmm' which will correspond with the format of GC. Hope this helps. Happy hunting, CW Grizz

I'm not familiar with this unit, but a review I read stated that the street navigation would have been a nice feature for Magellan to add to this unit because it was not there.

Also, they are not accurate when you input the wrong coordinates (transpose the numbers). I did this one time. The bad thing was that the narrative for the hide stated that even though there were "No Trespassing" signs, permission had been granted to enter the property to find the cache. I saw "no Trespassing" signs, climbed through the barbed wire fence and started my trek to the hide. Looked for about 30 minutes to no avail. Fortunately no one came and challenged me as this was not the property that permission had been granted to enter. After finding out the error of my ways, I found the cache on another property a short distance from where I had first looked (with the wrong coords) If manually entering coords, always double check them for accuracy. It might save you from getting shot in some places. Ha!

Thanks for all of the replies. I have done just what you say about walking up, getting it, walking away & signing log, and then putting it back. All of the LPC are on 2'-3' high concrete pedestals. No bending over, just walk up and retrieve. The one that intimidates me has the skirt at ground level. It seems that it would be pretty obvious that something strange is going on when retrieving this one. Ha! I guess I will just have to "Go for it". Ha! I know some have used the bicycle chain repair ploy at this one, but I do not have a bicycle. Ha! One day I will figure out something. Ha! Again Thanks to all who have replied and any who may add to this.

OK, I know that LPC's are a bore to many. In most cases the LPC's in Walmart parking lots are just the hohum driveup/walkup type caches without much trouble with muggles, etc, BUT............. What are some ploys for getting to the cache on a busy street (auto and pedestrian muggles 24/7)? I am sure that the cache I am looking for is in a LPC which is located right next to the curb for the main thoroughfare. I haven't found a casual way or become gutsy enough to lift the ground level skirt to find the cache in the midst of all of the muggle traffic. What are your tricks? Tying your shoe, dropping a stack of paper work, etc? TIA CW Grizz

I just went to the feedback forum and found the discussion quite interesting. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Your second statement I meant to include in my original post, because I do realize that for various reasons a new account may be established. Thanks for adding that in for clarification to others who may Not realize that just because the profile shows 0 finds that it does not necessarily mean they don't have any. I also realize that some people are more willing to read the rules/guidelines than others before hiding a cache. Hey that is the nature of we people of the animal kingdom. Really I guess there is not a real good way to overcome this, unless they had to pass a test on the rules/guidelines before hiding a cache. I will admit that I am relatively new to geocaching, but have been using a GPSr for years to set waypoints and navigate. I guess there is not really any way to test a person in scenarios like this for their knowledge or actual capabilities. Maybe I jumped the gun in ASKING the "why not require" question. It was something that had just come up in my local area and tweaked my interest. Again thanks for your reply and the one of jholly. Happy Caching, CWGRIZZ

Please don't think I am being caddy, but the idea is to solve it. Many times the individual who creates and posts a puzzle cache does not want to give any additional hints or clues. They intend for the puzzle to by solved individually. You may contact the CO and see if he is willing to assist in any way. DON"T ask him to solve it for you though! Hope this does not come across wrong as it is not intended to. I have some puzzle caches that I have been working on for quite awhile and am still at the beginning--a seeming deadend with no clue. Ha! Keep working on it and it may just pop out with an AH Ha moment. Happy Caching, CWGRIZZ

This came up in our local area recently. Two new caches were placed in an area by the same individual. One cache was found, but the coords were off by almost 1/4 mile. The only reason the cache was found was from the description of the area for the cache hide. The second cache has not been found (I think 7 DNF's) and the CO has not made any comments or done anything to rectify the bad coords. Looking on the CO's profile he has NOT FOUND ANY CACHES! I know in the guidelines it is SUGGESTED that you find a good number of caches before placing any new ones. Why doesn't Geocaching adopt a rule that a cache cannot be hidden by anyone (actually approved) unless they have found xx number of caches first? Seems like this might prevent the above. Also the cache container is pretty large for the area it was hidden in and in all reality probably will not last long. Ha! Do any of you have any thoughts on this? Thanks, CWGRIZZ

Being new to geocaching I found a geocoin in a cache. I had seen that the cache was supposed to have a geocoin, so I grabbed the coin with the intention of logging it and moving it. To my surprise upon logging it I discovered that it was not recorded as being in the cache that I had found it in. Also the geocoin that was supposed to be there was MIA. Not really knowing how to change this, I took the geocoin to another cache and again in my ignorance I took a picture of BOTH sides of the coin (number included) and posted it at the new cache where I placed it. The reason for doing this was that I was afraid that someone might think that I was mistaken in what geocoin I had. I logged the geocoin into the new cache. Anyway someone removed the number side picture from where I posted it. I really didn't know that they had done this until I read that posting the number was a No-no. Upon going to remove the picture I discovered that it had already been removed. I thank whoever removed it, but would have appreciated them also cluing me in as to the rule that I had broken so I would not repeat it. Thanks for listening