Grimstone

Heh, same here. When i first heard of that, I thought jeez, not everybody reads Harry Potter. What did they call non-geocachers before Harry Potter dominated the children's library? Im gonna throw out some suggestions: They, or Them (stealing your idea - i like it ) Unenlightened Ones Savages Brutes Barbarians Heathens (nice satire) Goblins As far as the past tense: Shanked Jim-Jimmed Took (as in "it got took") Owned (nice for all-around use) Acquired Beat Gobbled Ascended to Heaven (my personal favorite)

Any game that takes the cooperation of other people whom you do not know is going to take a lot of patience, respect, and forgiveness over minor greiviances. As I asked earlier, couldnt part of this problem be solved by making well-thought out caches for premium members only? Or is this still a problem even then? I'm not sure if you've got some sort of agenda or not (as you seem to be trying to prove something and if so I applaud you for your slyness), but of course this is an issue even among premium members as one person's notion of "equal" is definitely NOT always the same as another person's notion of "equal." Actually, no I wasnt trying to prove something nor do I have an agenda. I think you are paranoid and easily put on the defensive. As you can see from my profile, I am a complete novice, so I am just learning about all this and I was wondreing if it would be worth it to become a premium membre so I could stop finding crap in the woods.

Any game that takes the cooperation of other people whom you do not know is going to take a lot of patience, respect, and forgiveness over minor greiviances. As I asked earlier, couldnt part of this problem be solved by making well-thought out caches for premium members only? Or is this still a problem even then?

Yea, I think there should be more terms for non-geocachers. Muggles are kind of kiddish sounding. how about: Unbelievers! (heh, it gives a sort of religious fanaticism to it)

Eh, they are kind of sporadic out here. For instance, there are about 20 in the Fort Bragg area over on the Mendocino coast in Northern California, but where I am about an hour inland, there are hardly any, although its a bigger city. Hopefully I will fix that.

Wait a minute, what exactly are the "wrong hands"? Help me out here. I am going to plant a cache soon, and I cant see any reason not to put a little swiss army knife or something like that in it. Is it really so kids wont get hurt?

I think that just about says it all - very well said. So, can I ask a question to our premium members? Is this still a problem in "premium members only" caches?

Can I ask why knives are a no-no? I love knives. Is it so the little kiddies wont stab their eyes out???

Well, Im sure this offer wil be laughed at... but here goes anyway: 80 bucks.

Well, Ive watched a lot of mapping gpsr's on eBay, and they without fail go beyond my limit. It seems very few used gps receivers with mapping go for auction.

Hmm.... never looked at the basic meridian before, looks like its the cheapest one out there with a map! Thanks for the tip.

I'm looking for a used gpsr with mapping capability (not necessarily topo) for under $80. Any for sale? Thanks.

I honestly was not trying to sound sarcastic with that comment. I was genuinely asking if anyone had a spare gpsr with mapping capability that I could buy with $80. Thats it. I dont want a $300 CS, I never said I did. All I want is something better than this ancient relic we are using now, and maping capability.

OK, forget everything. Would a mod please delete this entire thread? My original intent is beyond recovery....

I think you should learn how to use a map, compass and a roamer. This would let you read the utm cords and plot them on the topo map you need to carry when you go into the woods. I think its the Magellan colorTRAK reciever. And actually, its not even mine. Its my brother-in-law's who is also a newb at geocaching.

Very good advice. More advice would be to not be so "snippy" to a seasoned cacher like "globalgirl" who obviously has a little more experience in the matter at hand & was being very helpful. Check pawn shops for some pretty good deals. You know what they cost new so it makes it easier to get them down on their price. Show 'em an ad where one was on sale such as the Best Buy deal where the Etex was $49 on closeout. Never hurts to ask. If all else fails, Christmas is coming up, make a wish list! That's how I aquired my first one. Three family members pitched in $50 each & I got a Mag 330 on sale. Good luck Whats a roamer?

Very good advice. More advice would be to not be so "snippy" to a seasoned cacher like "globalgirl" who obviously has a little more experience in the matter at hand & was being very helpful. Check pawn shops for some pretty good deals. You know what they cost new so it makes it easier to get them down on their price. Show 'em an ad where one was on sale such as the Best Buy deal where the Etex was $49 on closeout. Never hurts to ask. If all else fails, Christmas is coming up, make a wish list! That's how I aquired my first one. Three family members pitched in $50 each & I got a Mag 330 on sale. Good luck thanks for the tip on pawn shops. Next time I'm in a town that has a pawn shop I'll check it out. About me being "snippy" with globalgirl, I felt like she was being snippy with me, speaking condescendingly to me. And as far as "seasoned" goes... is having found 69 caches seasoned? Then what do you call the geocachers who have found hundreds or thousands?

This was all I needed to know from you. maybe there are others out there who would sell one for half its worth. Regardless, you seemed to be berating me for even wanting a nice gpsr, changing the topic from me looking for one, to whether or not I need one. You could have sent that info to me as a personal email and not posted it to a marketplace topic.

Globalgirl, oh and about the maps. What about when youre way out in the middle of no where and you dont know which ROAD that takes you near the cache? Its not like I live in the city here. Some of these caches are way the heck out in a national forest or somewheres. Anyway, I dont think you should be criticising me for wanting a gpsr a little better than the basic model. If you dont have one to offer than please go away to another thread. -grimstuff

Gosh, where to begin. First of all grimstuff, each tic of that 3rd, thousandth of a minute digit on the N coord represents but 6 ft., so for all 10 tics but at most 60 ft. Furthermore, without it - at any given moment you might be off by on average but 30 ft. And for the W coord, it represents even less - depending on where you are on the Planet. For me here in Seattle - but 4 ft. per tic - 40 ft. max and but 20 ft. on avg. Point is, once you're that close to a cache, you shouldn't be relying on your gps much anyway, but rather... Tuck away the gadget and just start LOOKING and "thinking like a geocacher". ----->We've got enough caches to know this - but thanks. Sure, the newest gps off the assembly line may well be more accurate than your little Magellan. And certainly it's a tad nicer to have that nth bit more accuracy on occasion, but... trust me, that's not gonna stop you from finding most any cache - even a micro. ------->I dont know if your calculations are wrong or somehting, but sometimes we end up actually .20 miles away from where the cache is and where our gpsr is telling us to go. Thats more than a few feet. And its actually a vtop-of-the-line magellan and weighs about 3 pounds (the thing is huge) but is old and does not allow for the thousandths. You really don't need mapping on your gps to find a cache. I opted for one w/ mapping but, quite honestly never use it. By the time you're a few hundred feet from the cache - what's to map? Also, what's with the gotta be pc compatible? Again, surely hand punching a wpt or three doesn't stop you from finding a cache. Truth is, we'd all like a pile of rubles to afford the latest and greatest, but until then... ------->Are you trying to sound insulting? Because it comes accross that way. Shoot grimstuff, for $80 you can grab a nice little Etrex off Ebay most any day of the week. I just snagged a brand new one for but $65. Sure, no maps on a YE (see above, so what?) but TONS of folks have found GAZILLIONS of caches with those little yellow puppies! Point is, just surely hate to see you give up based on thinking you somehow need the latest and greatest to play the game. ------>I actually dont want the latest and greatest, but I do want something nicer than the basic etrex. Oh, and give up?? We've suffered heat exhaustion (not kidding) in order to find a cache back in august and arrived back at our car unable to talk because our mouths were so dry. I was actually sick for a few days after this.... So.... I dont think we'll be giving up. We might just be a bit fanatical.

I dont want to insult anyone's auctions by giving super low offers, so... My brother-in-law and I are new to geocaching and have been using a really old Magellan that does not go to the third decimal place so you can see how hard it is for us to find a lot of caches. Sometime's we'll just try to find it without even using the gpsr because we know it won't do us any good. So what we are asking is for a gpsr with mapping and that is compatable with pc. Any kind souls with an extra gpsr? Name what you have, and the price you want. Our budget is under $80. (email me if you want at grimstuff@hotmail.com) Thanks!

Just in case I need to stab somebody in order to get to the CACHE!!!!!!!!!! jk... Why would you be shocked at somebody carrying a knife? Its not like these are cleavers or something....