eagletrek

Does it really matter???

Ahhhhhhhh! Another fascinating aspect of geocaching is that it serves as an informal study of personal character. The things I now know about folks that I never knew before is quite interesting!!!

Yeah, I will. Just got back from a business trip to El Paso in which I squeezed in a 100 cache run. I must say that most of those in the rural areas were well done. I really enjoyed those placed along RT 170 and 118. Was also a great way to knock off a few more Texas counties from my to-do-list.

Did you log the cache???? Found a few caches recently in West Texas which would be considered trash by an untrained eye even though they were placed as caches. These caches were not maintained and were falling apart. They were quickly morphing from cache to trash status. It also begs another question. Is a properly camoed and marked ammo can a cache or a piece of trash? To some outdoor purists, any cache would be considered trash. BLUF: If you don't like the cache or what it communicates then send a message to the owner and don't log it.

Isn't it all about the approach??? That includes finding a good location to park. Do all cachers want to be spoon-fed??? Not this one!!! OBTW, why do you abuse rubber duckies that way???

Very well said! Concur with all your comments. I'd like to trade 500 of my "park and grab" finds for a chance to find a handful of superbly hidden 4/4 or 5/5 caches. I guess it's time to start expanding my search radius by 700 + miles.

45 in a day geo-soloing. But that's all I do, as it's the only way to know "you've" found it. I find it interesting when folks who "geo-herd" say that they've found so many caches. Were they the one who actually found it or were they along for the ride? Of the number of folks who were on the expedition, who actually uncovered the cache? Is it a find or an assist? It poses the question: When is a find only a fraction?????

And Now for My Removal Technique. I let the buggers feast until I get home. Then I turn my tub into the world's largest Margerita and I soak until all the buggers are floating belly-up. It's a painless death and does wonders for one's skin!!!!

Check and double check!!! Completely concur with El Diablo and Moore9KSUcats. A great example of a well placed cache in a superb location was "Inside Out." Too bad you had to archive it.

Fair enough. Why is it hogwash to discover coins at an event? I'm physically holding them and admiring them. It gets back to the original "intent" of geocaching, or more specifically, what I believe to be the intent of geocaching. Granted, I'm new at this, but I see the purpose to be this: Go out in the countryside and find hidden caches. Sign the log book. Take something and leave somthing ("nothing" is considered something: TNLN). If there is a TB, you can log it and move it to another cache. If you have a TB, you can leave it in the cache. Go online and log your finds on the cache's page. Do it again. So this is just my opinion, and others have the right to do what they want - just seems to me that it defeats the purpose of "finding" or "discovering" a TB. This observation is Spot On! I agree folks can cache their own way but for those who have turned geocaching into a swap meet, please don't confuse yourself with folks who are in it for purpose of "finding", "discovering", and for that matter "trekking."

WALA vs. voila. Who cares!!! It's the way he wants to spell!!! Are there any rules???

Spot On!!! I concur fully!!! BTW, my caziest FTF involved an 80+ mile roundtrip in the middle of the night to score a cache in Meridian State Park in Texas.

I'll be honest, I like to score them when I can. It's a challenge thing. Considering that most hides in my area are not physically challenging, fall into the real short hike or park and grab category, and lead you to fairly boring locations, being FTF is about the most excitement you can get derive out of a cache. It's amazing how much Corps of Engineer land is available, in our local area, to hide more challenging caches but most folks defer to hiding park and grabs on ROWs.

Not into micros??? That's interesting??? I believe this is one of your posts on a prolific Georgetown, Texas micro series. "First to log? Well, I'm second to find (an easy walk) but only because my notifications haven't been working. (I haven't gotten notifications for about 2 weeks, I think... dunno why.) I should have been FTF, but didn't realize it was there until I saw Geomire pull up!"

What makes them special? Because you have to hunt them at night? The cache itself is still the same darned thing when you get to it. One could make a similar argument for Micros, or Scuba Caches, or Mountain caches or [insert favorite attribute here]. They don't need their own icon. The seperate icons themselves were a poor substitute for a cache attribute system, I don't see a need to enlarge the problem (For example what do you call a multi-puzzle-with a regular cache at the posted coordinates?) Nothing makes them special! However an icon/category denoting a night cache would make easier to quickly find versus opening up pages to check attributes. Personnally, I have no problem with other icons to denote other types of hides.

Um, SHE is one of our most respected geocachers, and her hides, along with her 15,000+ finds logged, may qualify her as the most experienced and highest finder in the world. That may be your opinion but not mine! Folks like her give caching a bad name, in my opinion.

Um, Horsepucky! Methinks it's easy, from posts like that, to see who sits at a computer thinking about caching, playing with software, and who is actually out there chasing caches! I've had numerous situations like the OP's... struggle through a wood, up a hill, cross a creek, whatever, and find the cache on a walking trail! But that's because it happened to show up next on the GPS when I was out caching, not because I was sitting at home pondering and planning an approach to a particular cache. Sorry, but if I invested the time to look up each cache, map it out, look at in GoogleEarth, I wouldn't have time to go get the thing! Ed I'm all for opportunity caching but sometimes I like to plan a route. Sorry this technique hasn't worked for you, but it has for me! In fact it's been pretty good. I don't use it for all my cache finds, only those that are in an area I'm unfamiliar with. It's hard to block out my years as an Eagle Scout and Army Officer. "Be Prepared" OBTW It's only my opinion and the way I like to play the game. I believe that's right down your alley! If you'd like to compare stats feel free. Mine speak for themselves. I believe I been doing my fair share of being "out there chasing chases." That's if you did some research.

I agree that there should be an icon for night caches. The attribute "recommended at night" doesn't tell the whole story. There have been some night caches that I've been able to do during the day as they were not that well thought out. There are others, to include my only night cache, which you could try during the day but would probably never find until the sun went down based of the type/style of the markers used.

Snoogans, Maybe you could add a photo of yourself with a pork chop tied around your neck. That would probably say it all. v/r Eagletrek

Why not use the tools made available to you. A quick check of google-earth is helpful on most occasions. It's real easy to tell who's never had extensive field experience when you read posts like these.

Looks like subterranean needs to hit the trails more often as his last log was JAN 05. Please don't compare frisbee to geocaching or anything else. Frankly, I wonder about you frisbee playing fools!

"Rude", like "beauty", is in the eye of the beholder. Some folks think that the truth is rude. Things that I find rude are: Caches placed which "encourage" seekers to trespass on private property. Folks who won't take the time or effort to ensure they get good coords for their hides. Folks who don't take the time or effort to maintain their caches. Folks who claim "finds" for caches they've hidden. Folks who consistently mention/or place spoilers or near spoilers in their logs. Folks who think they need to modify your cache without permission. Folks who think they need to come to the defense of someone else's bad behavior.

Served as an Armor Officer, US Army, 1979-1999. Mrs Eagletrek served as a Signal Officer, US Army, 1981-2001. The Eagletrek's have 40 years combined service. Couldn't get enough of it. I'm currently serving as a Department of the Army civilian. An interesting quote to ponder from Starship Troopers: "All right, let's sum up. This year in history, we talked about the failure of democracy. How the social scientists of the 21st Century brought our world to the brink of chaos. We talked about the veterans, how they took control and imposed the stability that has lasted for generations since. We talked about the rights and privileges between those who served in the armed forces and those who haven't, therefore called citizens and civilians."

Carry a Gerber Applegate-Fairbairn Standard and Gerber Multi-Plier 600 Basic on the belt, a Victorinox Classic SD on the keyring and two Inova Microlights (white and red light).

Chill out!!! I just read the DNF post in question. There's nothing disparaging about it. It was a listing of the cachers observations about his experience and not directed at you or your cache. Not everyone will be a happy customer.