JesandTodd

That's right. If you delete, they are gone forever.

They are on sale all over the place for 199$

Ive had logs deleted because COs didn't like what I've had to say (esp when it comes to PP issues). I've simply emailed them back, told them I would relog my find until the cows came home but if they deleted it again be prepared to elevate it to GS. If you found the cache, and signed the log, then you get the find. Period. Resubmit your find it log if it's a valid find

One of the few times I'll disagree with thebruce0. GS cares little about the community and what the community wants unless it affect the bottom line. They are a business, (and have every right to be) and they act as such. Will they ever limit the amount of caches the into app allows? No. Never. They will never eliminate the chance of converting that "weekend" user into a $10 app user. At this point, we can only hope they require email validation. This will be the "best-case-scenario". But the 8 or so pages on limiting the amount of caches, beginner caches, newbie ambassadors...and whatever else we've talked about.....will never be.

I agree...I've never had the issues you're describing, and I cache in the rainy PNW forests. I think the iPhone takes a bit of a learning curve. Along with a stong use of geosense. And patience. But....50ft off always? Never. Have never seen it behave that way. If you're unable to properly use your iPhone and want to solely use your gps, just run queries....and use both.

Absolutely. Perfectly said.

Finally. This is the best explanation so far, and I have to agree. All smartphone users aren't lazy and idiotic. But newbies are newbies. The need to feel like they are part of a community, not just an app I didn't say they were evenly spread across the globe I know you're the staunchest of the staunchest defenders of Smartphone caching. The staunchest of the staunchest??

Why can't we be both? I like wine and brew after an all day caching day too... I do my homework ahead of time when I want to maximize my day or going someplace new. In fact, I usually plan out my day the night before, searching the map for good locations to hit up, preferably where I've never been to before. I like to solve puzzles ahead of time, tuna query of the area. Check out fav points. Us smartphone users don't ONLY do "what's-near-me-right-now" kind of caching. We do real caching too...we are real cachers too. To fozzie: which iPhone do you have? I've had little to no problems with my GPS accuracy. 3GS...maybe. That's where I learned geosense. But with iphone 4 and up I've had no problems. I like mophie juice packs for my backup batts. But the key is...once you see where GZ is, put the phone away and look!

Are you kidding??? What on earth complicates things? This is *why* you have a smartphone! That's the whole benefit of it... My Garmin 60 CSx doesn't do projections...(does it? I dunno! If it does, I don't know how to do it..) There are dozens of free offline apps that do projections and so much more. Even if you can't figure out how to do a projection on your apps, or don't have one of the countless free apps, just turn your compass on, and walk however many feet in whatever direction. Most projections are close by... I use iGCT for app my stuff. Free.

Not sure of anyone else, but your link won't open (for me) to show what you're referring to. Me neither...

No, do not tell a stalking victim to stop using the internet. As I said before, my two stalkers scoured everything I ever posted to the internet, years before I "met" them, and used it to intimidate and harass me. I said it happened before Geocaching, but lets put a Geocaching twist on it. I would have seen something like this posted to usenet: "So, Mr.Yuck. I see you were in Dayton, Ohio last July. What were you doing there? Who is this [name redacted] guy you mention finding a few caches in the Dayton area with? How do you know him? Do you from the Army? Because we all know you've posted to the Groundspeak forums that you were in the Army Reserve for 22 years. Are you two gay? Because I think you're gay. I'm going to tell your wife you have a gay Army buddy in Dayton." Insert the voice of Hannibal Lector speaking that post, and you get the idea. Ok. Well...I've never been stalked. I assume, if anyone was interested, it would be quite easy. I've posted pics of myself, and I tend to log my finds live. I'd be an easier target than I'd hope. *So,that being said, I dont want to tell any previous (or future) victim of stalking what to do.* But....if I were so fearful of stalkers....I would most definitely play the game differently. I wouldn't [care] about my "accurate find count". I'd log my finds intentionally out of order (I already do this when I find puzzle. I'll log any nearby caches later). I wouldn't post any pics of myself, and I'd write incredibally dispassionate logs. There are ways to do things....but if I were seriously worried about my safety...then yes. I'd avoid geocaching and the internet.

My BIGGEST pet peeve in geocaching in the T=1 caches. If you have your cache labeled T1 so help me, it better be findable, retrievable, and replaceable someone in a WC. Period. And I will make note of it in my log on every cache I come upon that's labeled T1 and doesn't comply. I used to be just "miffed" at these types of caches, but one time I gouged my leg with a pair of dirty hemostats (gross) and had to be on crutches for 2 weeks. It opened my eyes. The T1 rating is *more* misused than the T5...

They are indeed cool. But everything is done with online banking or PayPal. Or money orders (speeding tickets and such)

I used a corkscrew the other day to get out the batteries!!! Barely worked. (Don't worry, I'm well versed in corkscrew usage) I thought it was because it was new. Forkeye, thanks for the ribbon idea. Will implement that!

You could always keep your logs impersonal and not post any pictures. I can read every log on all my local cachers...still doesn't mean I'll recognize them in line at Target. Or vice versa Or, continue playing the game and not log online Or, send out your finds with different dates. Or. Stop playing ether game

I use checks even less than I use stamps! I don't think I've used either in the past 5 yrs...

Aww....Poo Poo Point! IIRC, there's a pretty sweet ammo can near there

¡Warning! Rainbows ahead!!!

I'm a 'tip of the iceberg' kinda gal when it comes to GSAK. I think it's another language,and I'm at the ordering a taco phase. I didn't realize it could help with distances. I use mapsource to get a rough distance using the ruler thingie at the top. But for just a Sunday walk, I'd eyeball it. Maybe bring a pedometer on walks and then turn around at the halfsies point.

Yes, I do as well... Here's me at rattlesnake ridge. SHHhhhh, don't tell anybody I'm navigating with my iPhone!!!! Why wouldn't you want to cache here? Mt Washington

Best.tracks.ever!

Yes, my husband suprised me with one of these yesterday. Still pulling out all my hair trying to set it up. Frustrating... My 60CSx has never, ever, ever rebooted on me. It's been a workhorse, that's for sure This 62s...quite different from the 60 (Deleting repetitive phraseology)

Only findable at sunrise/sunset?

Do you have the into app or the full app? If you have the full app it's easy. Perform a search. This can be done either by : Find nearby caches Search by location (which never seems to work for me, but it's an option) -Or- if you know the GC code of a cache you want to center your search around, then pick 'search by GC code' For ease, let's choose 'find nearby caches' (the big obvious button in the middle) When you get to your map screen, scroll around to an area you'd like to go to. A nice park, lowland woodsy area,...you pick. The caches won't auto-populate on the map like they do on the website. So when you get to an area you want to cache in, hit the little swirly looking-glass button on the bottom left hand side. This will perform a search of the new area. Want to see more caches than 30? Hit the ellipses button (...) on the top right and select "+load more results". You can hit this button to your hearts desire and keep adding 30 caches to the screen. When you are satisfied with your search, hit the ellipses button again, and select "Save to offline list" Select the top green bar "create new list" Give your new list a name "Sunday walk with the kids" Hit done. It will forever reside in your saved tabs. Want to finesse some of the results? If you have time, look at your cache results in the list view (instead of map view). You can easily see which caches have D/T combos outside of your comfort zone. If you'd like these caches removed, you can select those caches, hit the ellipses button again, and select "Remove from this list" It's not nearly as time consuming as it may appear. Merely selecting a map view, loading more results and saving them to an offline list can take under a min. In fact, I use this technique FAR more than loading PQs. Have fun!

OOoooh! So if one makes all of their caches premium only, and only place caches that require a projected waypoint, one can effectively weed out app users finding of their caches! Brilliant! And, effectively sharply reduce the amount of overall finds you caches will ever see being a PMO multi. Projection is easy. I use iGCT for that. Free app Same with coordinate conversion. Easy peasy. Same app