Ant89

For the TS Only works if there is a shut off valve attached to stop the water flow. otherwise without a bite valve the water will come gushing out and soak you.

Frost test There is frost on the outside and inside of the flysheet, therefore my belief that the water seen on the inside is caused purely by condensation not leaking.

It's still a 4 (UK season) tent. For camping at higher altitudes than the UK offers I would rather use something with tougher fabrics. Due to the coating on the flysheet it's not breathable, which means condensation is a problem so the door vent needs to be left open. The 1st outing happened to be in the summer with lots of heavy rain. there was a lot of moisture on the inside, but I cannot confirm if it was the result of the rain coming through the top seam or a result of the rain cooling the fabric incresing the ammount of condensation. more research is needed into this.

I've got a Terra nova Voyager superlite tent myself. So far I've used it on official campsites during field trials and up in scotland out wild camping.

Only been at this a couple of months. I often wonder why people say "there are no more good locations" Is this not classed as a good location? http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/410535 (well maybe not for ease of find but for the view)

WOOF!

Totally agree What you must remember is that proofers do not actually make it waterproof, but restore the DWR (Durable Water Resistant) coating of the jacket. When waterpoofs loose the DWR the water can soak into the outer layers of the fabric (using my eVent coat for example) the breathability is reduced so your sweat does not excape as easily. This results in the inside of the coat getting damp. The coat itself is not leaking, it's just not letting the moisture produced from your body out. heat helps restore the DWR coating too but you do have to be careful not to use too hot a setting otherwise more perminant damage can be done to the clothing.

It all depends on my mode of transport. Car:- GPS and paper print outs (soon to be paperless) road map Satnav pen/ pencil Maybe a few specialist items assuming the cache needs anything like that. Pushbike:- Puncture repare kit general cycle accessories GPS and paper printouts (soon to be paperless) paper map (1:50,000 scale marked with rough locations of caches) pen/pencil map board [listmap case (unless map is laminated) Water Snacks water resistant soft shell (keeps the wind off, and keeps you dry in showers) Waterproof jacket (if out when their is heavy rain predicted)* waterproof trousers (if there is heavy rain)* *Soft shell usually good enough for most of the time. Walking:-depends on the lengh of the walk,Less than 6 miles total distance (2 hours) GPS and paper print outs (soon to be paperless) paper map (1:25,000 scale) pen/pencil water resistant soft shell (keeps the wind off, and keeps you dry in showers) Waterproof jacket (if out when their is heavy rain predicted)* waterproof trousers (if there is heavy rain)* *Soft shell usually good enough for most of the time. If on a longer hike (over 6 miles/ 2 hours) GPS and paper print outs (soon to be paperless) paper map (1:25,000 scale) and compass pen/pencil water resistant soft shell (keeps the wind off, and keeps you dry in showers) Waterproof jacket (if out when their is heavy rain predicted)* waterproof trousers (if there is heavy rain)* *Soft shell usually good enough for most of the time. Water (1-2 Litres depending on total lengh of walk and availibility of water along route) water purification kit Small backpack general walking gear

Similar problem with my Etrex venture except that, The rubber came off after being chewed up at the top and bottom by my pet rat (he left the buttons alone!) Buttons still work without the rubber but it's no longer waterproof of course.

I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I'm not very good at saying this sort of thing.