Breimh

Actually, I have read what others have said, and can see where they're coming from. But I do have a problem with the whole 528ft. rule that seems absolutely ludicrous to have for something like a nano or micro, as much as the problem with the way certain people will dominate an fairly good sized area just for that smaller-than-dime sized container. While I agree that yes, the location is the key, and the container isn't supposed to be; people do like the idea of hunting for treasure, and many cachers get into it for that particular reason. Signing a piece of paper is not a treasure for many out there, sorry if you can't understand that. It's how my friends who cache are, and it's something I much prefer myself, too. And at the same time, I feel that going to these places shouldn't just be to admire a view or the beauty of the place... that is part of it, to be sure, and an important part... but to have fun, too. And for many people that I know - including myself - fun is in finding "buried treasure". Consider it a poor man's holiday to the rich man's ability of being able to go diving for treasure off the coast of Sierra Madre.

Many of them do have some wonderful nooks and crannies to explore, they're often "L" shaped, or stretch out for a city-block or two but are only as wide as an alley, yet still have gazebos or nice little fountains at one end or the other... and often both ends... of the park. My friends and I have looked at many and said, "there'd be a great spot for _____" only to find that there's already a nano or micro stuck right smack in the center of the park, in a spot where the trash cans are, or some tree that blocks the view that a bench would otherwise have, instead of on one end or the other where there has been some beautification and clear views of the shore.

Thanks, I do love to cache, and I'd like to be able to eventually find a place to hide one of my own, too. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened because of the issues I keep running into with the sheer volume of nanos and micros that are being placed in the way they are. Sure, I can find the caches I want to get to, but I have to do a good amount of travel to get there to do so. The emotion really does have more to do with the disappointment of wanting to be able to just walk down the road or ride my bike to a nice, nearby spot and enjoy a type of cache I prefer. I can't seem to do that, now that I've found the few that are located here. My hope is that within a year the tables will turn and these nanos and micros will either be upgraded to larger sizes or archived for others to get a chance to place something which my friends and I deem to be worth the hunt.

Wow, I didn't realize my psyche was a ticked off looking feline named Maingray, no wonder I want to boot felines who get under my feet and want to trip me up. Seriously, if you're going to read that much into the words I choose, then you don't know me at all and I'd rather you didn't offer a suggestion on the subject when it's not helpful in any real way. But thanks for playing.

There isn't really anger, but a sense of annoyance that I've actually met Geocachers who are so inconsiderate, as well as being rude, too. When I first looked into this hobby, I was amazed at how nice the people were that I was meeting, no matter where I went. I still didn't join in doing caching regularly, myself, at that time because I felt that it was only a matter of time before the jerks and airheads would start getting involved and threaten to ruin the fun for me. While there have been a vast number of the latter to participate, I have only encountered a few of the former. So you might say it's also dismay that they've finally been spotted in the three years since I've taken an interest in geocaching... and just after I was getting deeper into it, too. Three years is a long time to finally run into such ill mannered types. As for playing nice, I'm trying to do so, but it seems you missed the point. It wasn't about no longer having fun or me not being able to play nice with others. It was about people sticking a nano - of all the sizes of caches, it's always nanos - in the dead center area of a small park instead of leaving a bit of room on one end or another for someone to place another cache. That's not only disheartening to see, it's taking away the fun for some of us who like caches that aren't just the type where you sign your name and walk along with a spring in your step like you've done something amazing. The least they could do is make it a puzzle, or part of a multi-cache if they're going to do something so self-centered and egotistical. It would be no different than me walking into your bedroom and planting a flag in the middle of your bed while you were away from home, in many respects, rather than just putting an "Elect Joe Josephs for Mayor" on the parking strip of your front yard.

Yes, exactly! While so many others might say "just get out there and enjoy those you can." That's not really the issue. I've done the searches for nanos and micros and find it uninteresting in any way. The parks are nice, but again they're in-city community (ie: suburbia) parks that just have housing and playfields nearby, so there isn't a lot of nature to enjoy unless you want to stare at a trio of trees surrounded by a lawn and bushes. Still, the park would be large enough to place caches at any given end and leave room for at least one more to be put in there somewhere. Others say, "hide yours there first". Don't they realize that just hiding it there and then getting the okay isn't going to guarantee they get dibs on a particular spot? It just doesn't work that way. I've actually tried to talk with the two worst culprits of this type of domination of the grounds we should be sharing and got a really rude comment from one, while the other hasn't said a word. This is why I mentioned the situation here, to see what advice others might wish to give.

I'm really frustrated, yet again. Another Nano has been placed smack in the center of a wonderful little in-city park that had potential to host at least three different caches within the same space. For many of the people I know, and for myself, the fun is in going to a spot and seeking not a single cache that all you can do is write your name on a log, but locate two, three or even five caches within the boundaries of the same park and swap out swag to get something really cool or fun. In the area I live, there are many little parks and way-stops that have a nice small nook or cranny to be able to tuck at least a small sized cache; but a couple of people in the area continue to snipe other geocachers chances of placing anything in these wonderful hidey-holes as if it's some sort of competition to have the most caches hidden within a given town. What makes it worse is their inability to place their nano at one end of the park, instead, they slap it down right in the center so that no one else can have a cache within the park because of the "528ft. rule" that continues to be stuck to with no regard for the cache sizes, when they were placed or even who put them there. I've tried to talk to these particular people on a couple of occasions, and I know others who have also tried to speak with them about it, but it seems our pleas fall on deaf ears. If this were the case in your region you lived in and liked to geocache around, what would you do?