Skippy and Pingu

Thanks for the congrats We are really happy to have found this one . We are now all enlightened. There are still half of the people left to find it though, good luck to them is all we can say. Back to nice easy geocaching now, no more Pythagoras's theorums & lifes work, Sumartan language lessons, sacred numbers and holy numbers. If anyone would like any on tap useless knowledge on any of the above I think you know the people to contact .

Or ones in latin, we don't carry a plant latin to common name dictionary with us to help us identify a particular tree/plant that the cache is apparently hidden under. Our pet peeve: co-ordinates that are so way out they might as well be on another planet. Don't think we have any other pet peeves. If people have loads of pet peeves would they really continue on geocaching?

Or even more blind when they find it but realise they don't have a key!!! I'm off to pluck thistle spines out of my shins........

Yes, the points form a isoceles triangle. It is not possible for the centre to be the cache site, the start co-ords are miles away and the instructions to find the actual co-ords are take the same number away from the N and W co-ords. This describes a straight line, outside of the triangle.

Only 11 teams have the equipment required for this cache at the moment. 5 of these 11 teams have put in over 50 hours of searching, this makes it more than a 4 star difficulty and yes, it does make it possibily one of the hardest caches in the UK. Bear in mind you have to have passed through 3 caches, 2 of which weren't simple to get this far. Hats off to MN though, he has brought the geocaching community in Cheshire together and has created a talking point that has lasted months. We are now on 1st name terms with a number of local cachers that prior to this were just geocaching handles and no faces.

... and you are still denying ownership or insider knowledge about it Gorse bushes, I never want to see another one of those again. As for MN, I think the sheep up in the Welsh countryside are telling us as much as MN.

Think that we will be coming and will want food. Thanks for organising this. Never been to a CITO event before.

Ok, Ok I realise many people have taken offence to this link but the thought of even attempting anything like this with one of our two little moggies brings a smile to my face!! Just the look I know I would get from the little lad would keep me going for a while!! I think the fact that it is such a daft thing to attempt makes it obvious that it's not being at all serious.

Email winging its way as we speak. We're up for this, never had a TB in a race before.

We've been walking in the UK for years and never seen our only poisonous snake. That is until this summer whilst out caching we saw 2 adders in 5 mins. We're now a bit concerned about our planned trip down under. Think we'll be taking sticks to retrieve caches there. Think you have to worry about spiders as well there.

I like that

For those of us with ancient phones who can't do this they suggest to have ICE1, ICE2, ICE3 etc. I have done this with my brick! They then know the order in which to call as well so my next of kin are contacted in the order I would like them to be. If my phone identifies an incoming call as ICE1 instead of "home" I know that ICE1 is our house number so I answer the call knowing its home. So incoming call identification isn't a problem as long as you remember whats on each ICE.

Well done Ozzy

We recently tried to replace a traditional cache with a virtual, it was being muggled constantly and after about the 8th time we decided to archive it and make it a virtual as it was also near a site of historical interest. However, there are apparently new virtual cache guidelines that need to be adhered to so it's nowhere near as easy as it used to be to set one. Best bet is to contact one of the approvers and ask for some guidance.

A sandwich!!! Ewwww. Wouldn't have liked to have come to that cache if it hadn't been found for a while during a hot spell. Luckily the sandwich was in my cache and from the log written on the webpage I thought something undesirable had been left. It was cleared out within 24 hours. It would have stunk otherwise. Putting a note in the cache might work but how many people read the "Congratulations you've found it intentionally or not ... ". We stopped reading them after our 2nd find as you know what it says. You would have to put a separate sheet in to make people notice it.

We've removed lighters and matches from caches before when we've not had stuff to swap. Our feeling is they are contraband and shouldn't have been placed there in the 1st place. For the record we have also removed chocolate, a sandwich, boiled sweets and crisp packets from a cache (not all from the same one). Why do people leave such stuff?

Ours is regular as clockwork.

Just browsing through the forums and found this thread http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=102198. This really highlights why we need to get landowers permission before placing. After the events of this week it will be even more important. If landowners are aware of a cache they would be able to tell worried members of the public what it is instead of sending in the bomb squad. I wonder how many people out there do actually get permission. Our experience is it can take a long time and its is for that reason that it takes us a while to get caches out.

Just gone 28 (Skippy) and Knock knock knockin' on 30's door (Pingu)

Our thoughts are with everyone affected by todays events. My family count themselves lucky as my mother was ill today and therefore didn't go into London to work. If she had she would have been in Kings Cross at probably the worst time to be there. We agree that as a community we will need to think carefully about how our behaviour at cache sites could be seen as suspicious in the following months but tonight we should think of all those affected.

I'm just chuckling to myself over that comment... Last night on Big Brother Derek (a Tory spin type person and v posh londoner) said - "He's from the North of England - a very deprived place!!" Hmmmmm not overly happy with that one! Yes, we chuckled at that comment on BB as well. If we are so deprived why do some of the northern counties have so many caches compared with some southern counties? Don't think that we are deprived, when we've run out of caches up here then we'll be deprived .

Didn't realise that caches couldn't be in a black plastic bag. Most caches we find are in black plastic bags, in fact it appears to be the norm. We will take it out of it this weekend.

I think this is a scam as well. Do think that the above link should have come with a warning, thank god I didn't open it at work in open plan in plain view of 30 others. The ribbing I would have got. Imagine having to explain geocaching and the reason for visiting that site with that large heading all in one conversation . I would have died!! [Edited by moderator to remove inappropriate link]

There have been a couple of occassions when we wanted something and everything we had didn't fit in the box. In both these cases we left money to the value we though the item would cost us in the shops. Money fits in most boxes, in the case in question it wouldn't have fitted in with the theme but at least it would have been something. I would like to point out that this cache you can drive your car right to so the excuse of leaving my wallet in the car wouldn't wash. I really feel its bad practice and not fair on other cachers to take something and leave nothing in return. If everyone did this geocaching would probably cease to exist. We will email the cacher as Deego suggests.

We put a new cache out about a week ago with a football theme. Everything in it was football related and the rule of the cache was that you had to leave something football related if you took something. Its had a visitor today who took 2 things and left NOTHING . All he could say for himself was sorry. Its a small cache and he took 2 of the best original items from the cache. We thought one of the basic rules of caching was if you take something you leave something. If you can't leave something then you shouldn't take. We've on occasion not had swaps with us and not taken the thing we wanted out of a cache. Are we expecting too much to expect people to stick to this basic rule? We know its a game and rules can be bent but if we all went and took things and never left anything all caches would be empty and cache owners would constantly be stocking and probably would give up on it.