Car camping, I don't have immediate access to my backpacking gear. That's the snag, I want to avoid developed campsites and people, but at the same time need to be able to drive in. The Jeep can go anywhere, but I can't just drive anywhere I want. I know good spots to hike in, and I know some spots to car camp, but all of them are developed. I guess a developed campsite would be fine if it wasn't overly developed. Seems like all the car camping I've done with people lately had the sites all butted up against each other, rules against burning native wood, rules about how you park your vehicle, some even had :eek: paved roads to the campsites. I just want to get away.