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Several years ago (dial-up days on AOL) I made the mistake of clicking on Marky's trackables list and it took several minutes to upload all the icons. At the time he only had 1000+ activated coins and it convinced me of two things.... 1) Only activate as many coins that would match the column of icons moved and discovered and 2) it was time to subscribe to high speed internet.

The point is still that you are understandably upset that the "unactivated coin" you bought is not just activated but activated to a third party.... ie. the seller is not the registered owner. The question still remains about the legality of the sale. Is the coin stolen? Does the seller know s/he misrepresented the coin and could face serious problems with Ebay for selling something belonging to another and misrepresenting it on their auction page. Ebay does not like this sort of thing as it give them a bad name.

Marky is a well known and respected cacher and coiner. But your beef is with the seller who misrepresented the coin you bought, not the original owner of the coin in question..... maybe the seller "found" the coin in a cache and all the logs have been deleted - just sayin'. Edit to add.... contact Marky and tell him you bought a coin on Ebay he happens to be the owner of. He may adopt it over to you, he's that kind of guy.

Delete them. If the coin's not traveling the logs are bogus and belong in the trash.

This happens an awful lot because the time to get to a computer to post your tracking logs is sometimes longer than it takes, in some cases, for another cacher who was right on your heels to retrieve the coin and log it out before you got a chance to log it in. I agree with the Spooks.... don't sweat it, the coin is now properly logged and tracked.

Gorgeous..... is it possible to still obtain one or two at this late stage? Never mind. I found the site. Thanks for the headsup.

Spotted this sucker sitting a pile of coins acting like the flippin' king of the hill.

I was surprised to get this one so quick. Since there are 5000 around I don't see why a handful can't make their way out to see other members of the geocoin community. So Mrs B if you want to introduce one to the Welsh I will take the heat for it.

Pocket queries..... one of the benefits of premium membership.

Sometimes I've had to resort to taking a close up picture (using macro mode) and then viewing the image on screen to decypher tracking numbers that can be too small to be useful to experienced eyes like mine.

My feeling is that the number of virtual logs from the huge number of pics that find their way online, especially now with the smartphone photo embellishment Instagram provides, is minimal. Most of the virtual logs I catch are from typos or random generators. If I find an unedited geocoin pic online with a nekid tracking number I will try to contact the photo's owner and request that they paint over the number but aside from that the only control we have as coin owners is to delete the offending logs.

That's funny, like Fairyhoney I was curious what the coin looked like so I went to Google for help. Guess what the first photo was? TBNMP8

Sorry to hear about the nasty divorce.... no fun for anyone. Many happy future endeavours.

I recall many collectors selling off their collections but only a handful of collections sold off whole... the collector/seller's name known only to the buyer, their friends and cohorts. Sorry.

Mrs B if I get one I'll dip it and post it to you to drop in your neck of the woods.

I've seen two ways this was achieved. 1) A booklet with high quality full sized photos of about a dozen coins. Unlike Proxies these aren't to be moved only discovered. Or, 2) Weld the coins to the inside lid of an ammo can. You'll be destroying the coins but they won't go anywhere without the ammo can which was then chained to a tree. I suppose epoxy could work too or liquid nails which could eventually be chipped off and take a fair amount of the coins' enamel/pain with it. Either way it's an ambitious and worthy effort.

You can do all the theft prevention in the world... drilling it, attaching high tensile cable and geocoin buddies and packets of instructions, engraving your name.... it's all still luck of the draw - Big'un or Lil'un will each face the same challenges. Hope you get some good mileage out of yours. Psssst..... here's a secret to enjoying your traveling coins - mentally and emotionally let them go, just forget about them. The less you think about them the better. When those logs come in, great..... if they don't, so what?! you'd already written them off. And if they disappear happily mark them "Stolen".... in their names!

Flip for it. Toss them in a bucket of water and see which one sinks the fastest. Roll them both and see which one your pet will go after - if they be round, that is. Put two sheets of paper on the wall marked BIG'UN and LIL'UN, put a blindfold on a test subject (you?) and go pin a tail to the geocoin. Seriously, if you can't choose anyone's guess is no better than yours.

It's only been 3 months. I've had coins re-surface after being lost for years, only to disappear again after a drop or two - but I digress. If the coin resurfaces and you have a proxy out you could be accused of abusing the tracking system and have your coin page frozen permanently. Multiple items traveling on the same tracking number is not allowed. it's a bit early yet to run that risk.

Yeah it's tacky but so is taking coins and not logging them, forgetting to log them, refusing to move them or expecting to sell these cache found coins. Buying a coin to release only to have it "go missing" right from the first cache is a great disappointment, especially of human nature. However it's also disappointing not to find the coin you were expecting to see in a cache but a cheap photocopy of it. Personally I think the owner's disappointment trumps the cacher's but there is a lot more "cacher rage" against proxies these days than "owner rage" against the takers and thieves. Anyway, be that as it may, if you label your traveller properly (call it a something or other Proxy) you will lessen the petulant disappointment of folks who had to walk for hours for nothing and will take their rage out against your little traveller.

When scouting around to find out what happened to your "lost" trackable it's important to look at the cacher's profile and history. This particular person has only found 6 caches and has one logged trackable - yours. That bit of information says a lot. They have very little experience with moving trackables, actually none prior to your coin, and even 6 caches found does not make a proficient cacher or even knowledgable of the ins and outs of the geocaching site. So it's unfortunate that your first coin released (and very cool coin it is) got picked up by someone who's never picked one up before. Now this person may continue to cache or may never leave the car with a gps unit again in their life.... that's life... and what you say to them could influence what they do next. You could encourage them to read the guidelines, include a link to the geocaching.com pages with the relevant information as they probably don't know how to get there or even that they are there! Don't tell them what to do.... nobody likes to be told off... but let them read for themselves what is expected of them in this game and how it works. Ask them kindly to keep your coin moving as it's your first and only and you are very anxious to see it travel since they are the first cacher to pick up the coin and would hate to see it disappear already. Be nice and be patient. A credo for all coin owners is never leave something unattended in the woods you are not prepared to lose.

Near the top of the Geocaching.com home page there is a row of drop down menus. The first one is LEARN and the first choice is GEOCACHING 101 with loads of information on how to play this game, how to create caches and how to submit them for review and publication onto the site and much much more. Seriously..... it's all pretty easy reading and you'll learn a lot.

I like the idea of dropping them in caches the current owners have. It's the closest to actually logging them into their hands.... which is what you're trying to do. Moving them to the "unknown location" which is where you send coins that are Missing seems a bit harsh but effective if you just want to dump them. I guess it's a question of tact and finesse.

RATS... foiled again. I guess you don't need to be logged in to view a coin page and call up the map but you do if you want to call the map directly. Those Lackeys have built a clever mouse trap!

Here's the map to your son's coin page TEACH ME THE WORLD. I should think if you use the link from any site it should call up the map page. I'd be curious if it works.