Charles Phillips

I know of a "liar's cache" cache that is listed as a very hard micro cache in the woods. I understand that this type of micro cache is much maligned, but when you get there the cache is a 2 gallon screw top container, on a rope, at eye level, and painted dayglo orange. There is a note in the lid to make up a story about your adventure to find such a hard cache. My question to you is what's mean about that cache? It certainly sounds like fun to me. That one does sound fun; and unless someone really likes to find evil micros in the woods, it is harmless. One which is made up to sound like a great high difficulty adventure, which turns out to be something easy and ordinary, can be mean - especially if people spend time and effort to travel there. Perhaps you missed my earlier response that is listed as #7 here. Now, I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer anymore, but I tend to read about things I'm interested in doing before I try to go do them. The fact might remain after reading that I feel I am not able to do such a thing and if I feel that I am able or might be able to do such a thing, I will seek more information before jumping in the deep end. This seems like common sense to me. The owner of the cache in question has extended an offer of help to prepare for his 5/5 cache adventure. Who is to blame if the cache turns out to be as you say or if it's real and they show up unprepared if they didn't contact the owner first and seek help as it was offered? I fail to understand how not doing due diligence for any high difficulty/terrain cache could possibly be the cache owner's fault. Can someone adequately explain to me how it could possibly be so?

I know of a "liar's cache" cache that is listed as a very hard micro cache in the woods. I understand that this type of micro cache is much maligned, but when you get there the cache is a 2 gallon screw top container, on a rope, at eye level, and painted dayglo orange. There is a note in the lid to make up a story about your adventure to find such a hard cache. My question to you is what's mean about that cache? It certainly sounds like fun to me.

That is an issue. I recall the story of some cachers who did make a long trip to find a liars cache and were not pleased when they found it. Liars caches might be funny among the locals, but when people start booking flights, wasting gas and planning their caching time around them I'm sure they won't appreciate the joke. This cache is listed as a 5/5. It seems to me that reading the cache page would be the greater issue here. Why would any sane person attempt such a cache or go to great expense to go there without first reading such a cache page given the terrain and difficulty? Did anyone notice this passage on the cache page? That appears to be a well covered arse to me.

Too much rules.