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I agree with Roddy. For $130 the PN-20 is the best value out there. I have never used a etrex but have used a colorado. I just don't see the extra $200 as being necessary as the pn-20 does paperless caching. The unit itself is easy to use. The topo software is confusing but I was able to load the precut map for my area with no problems. As far a PQ's...there is a script that painlessly transfers to the unit. I understand Garmin is just drag and drop but tan extra few steps for the Delorme is negligible. The only knocks are that the delorme maps are outdated. My neighborhood was built in the early 90's and the unit is off by about 500 feet on my local streets. Also I can't upload found caches to geocaching.com with comments...I'm probably doing something wrong though.

I just need the GPS to get me to the parking spot. I have a PN-20. I would like to stay with the low cost 200 series. Is the Nuvi 260 compatible. Anyone have a screen shot of what the poi cache screen looks like? Would these poi's show up on the screen as container icons or do you have to route them all seperately?

Are there any Road GPS like the Nuvi's that will allow you to download GPX files into them instead of entering coordinates manually?

How do you find them? http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...g=&numlogs= I looked for this one and there is nothing at the coordinates. How do you know what to look for?

I live in a suburb of Minneapolis , Minnesota. When I first did a pocket query, I ran it for 30 miles radius hoping to get most of the metro area I plan to cache. When the results came back there were 500 caches within 3 miles of my house. My question is...What would be the best way to cover a metro area without overlap causing dupes? I also mainly cache by bike and there is a bike trail near my house that goes through 4-5 suburbs and it would be nice to map out caches that are close to the trail. I use a Delorme PN-20.

Are there decent free street maps for the 200? I have a Delorme pn-20 and the street maps are not very accurate. I checked the file depot site and they have a Minnesota topo but I'm not sure if it has streets that I would need for geocaching. Yeah but it does come with both a lanyard and lanyard attachment!!!!

I bet that was it. Thanks!

It's actually under anothe user w/ premium membership Check your membership, you show on this thread as just a member.

I got a premium membership a couple of days ago and have run about 20 new queries. I haven't been emailed one. I read the tutorial and followed every direction. what's going on?

Chip, I just received the PN-20 with Topo 7. Someone said there would be a coupon to upgrade to Topo 8 for free but I didn't receive it. Will users be able to upgrade to 8 for free and if so where will it be available? Thanks.

The Colorado for $250 at costco is tempting. Are there free street maps for the Colorado and anyone have screen shots of what the free ones would look like? You could refrain from this kind of statement. But as long as you're going to hide behind the "you call it like you see it," don't be surprised when you receive the same. Now, as for arguing with every point... From my perspective, and it is only mine I'm stating here, I can only shake my head at the do as I say and not as I do mentality. That being said... It comes down to what the individual wants and what they are willing to do to get it. Garmin users are happy to go after the free programs providing they know about them. DeLorme provides an alternative to the word of mouth effort. The PN series was designed with this concept in mind. Paying for public domain data at $30 per year? Hardly. Paying for upkeep of the equipment and storage of the data to be converted on the fly and readied for download to Topo for the PN owner? It's a mere pittance to pay. Yes the PN-40 is in growth pains. Yes there are some QC issues. Yes download speeds of large data could be better, but what do you want for $30 per year? Bottom line that appears before me with all this, if it doesn't walk, quack and smell like a Garmin... it won't meet certain user's criteria - period. I can plan around the limitations and I'm happy with it. You don't have to be and I don't place any expectations for it but why trash those when they are happy with it with denegrative statements like the way yours started and then complain when it comes back at you? I think what needs to eventually happen is folks decide they agree to disagree. Once a mind is made up, rehashing the same point (on either side) is useless. I suggest everybody take a breather and remember it's just a device and it's involving a game we all enjoy. You're right TotemLake. Unfortunately I submitted my rant the same time you submitted your more suitable comment. No more rants from me. I like my PN-40. I like my 60csx. I like my Nuvi. I hope everyone else finds the GPSr they're happy with.

Being new to geocaching and living close to a city the most important feature to me seems like the ability to see street detail to be able to find a parking spot to search for the cache. I cached once with someone who had the colorado which was very slick but I went with the pn-20 because on paper it had the same capabilities to map street level for alot less. I understand it will probabbly be alot slower and lack a few other things but I can live with that. My question is...am i right in thinking street level is that important? To me it would be very difficult to search for a cache in a suburb with just a base map.

walmart.com shows it for $138 but wouldn't you have to pay shipping? Amazon has it for $140 including shipping.

It sounds like redraw is a big complaint. I personally don't see a big issue because once a cache is found and you select the next one you will be able to see the route and plan accordingly and usually they are close to each other. I also like the fact that the Delorme developers are actively listening for geocaching feedback and update firmware fixes often. Can anyone come up with other negatives...I heard the screen is small, will that be a big hinderence compared to the Colorado? Also ease of use. I heard that the PN-20 is difficult to learn. There is a reason the pn-20 is so much cheaper: its slow as molasses. Screen redraws can take seconds, and if you're using this for any kind of road navigation, I'd suggest against it. If on the other hand you were considering a pn-40, which is much, much faster, then the above doesn't apply. I also think a comparison to the pn-40 would be a better choice, and would make for a much tougher decision. My local REI had the Colorado 400t on sale for $249. Ridiculously low price, which makes me mad I paid about $375 for my CO 300. Owning a Colorado, I can say it is a fine unit. Accuracy is acceptable for recreation use, and the screen and topo maps are awesome. I've been considering purchasing a pn-40 to replace it, and its been a tough call so far. The DeLorme does have the ability for raster maps and aerial imagery, for $30 a year. At the same time, there are sites like GPSFileDepot where you can download all the FREE maps you want for the Colorado (or any Garmin unit). These free maps are often better than what the others are charging for their vector maps. I'd honestly suggest spending a couple days with both units, and see which you prefer. With DeLorme's no-questions-asked 30-day return policy, I would probably start with it first. If you don't like it, return it and get the Colorado. If you get the CO first, you may find youself needing to payback a restocking fee, thus losing money you could use towards the purchase of the DeLorme. In any case, good luck with your search! You'll be happy either way

I'm looking for a paperless GPS that has detailed street capability and the ability to transfer loc and gpx files and be able to see cache icons in realtion to the street layout. Also be able to upload information and mark found caches. It looks like both of these have these options but the Delorme is alot cheaper. Is there a big difference between the two? Would I be better off spending twice as much for the Garmin?