I see your point Majbach - I think you were saying urban is good if it's really urban, but if it's in scruffy, garbage strewn areas just because those are easier to hides stuff without it being found - it's not too fun.
The challenge is to find urban places that don't make you want to run home for a shower afterward.
Thanks for the compliments on our first few Urban attempts, CLIFFY! We've enjoyed the response to those, and the chance to contribute a tiny bit to the 'art' of caching.
I think the bottom line is that when you don't have time for an out of town hike, it's fun to try to find something in the midst of the urban hubbub.
R+K