Sanderling13

Ah, interesting! That makes a lot more sense, then. Thanks for the explanation!

Aha! I missed that button the first time. Thank you so much! I’ve been really impressed with how welcoming and helpful everyone here has been, even with a stumbling newbie like me. I feel like that’s not a universal experience on the internet these days. So thanks, everyone.

Thank you so much for looking this up! I really appreciate you taking the time to do that. I just had a chance to try looking it up using the admin link you provided, and while it does find the cache, only the header details (name, code, D/T, etc) are visible; everything else, including the ability to log it, requires an upgrade to Premium. The D/T are both 1.5 and the cache type is Traditional. What is it about this cache that makes it Premium-only? When I submitted my 1.5 D/T Traditional caches I don't recall anything else in the submission form that might have resulted in a Premium designation, or even a place where you might choose to have it listed as such.

Ah, I didn't even think of that - but of course that makes sense! Maybe they just need a little box in the corner of the map that says like "3 Premium caches not shown" or something. ? That sure does! Gotta admire their dedication, though. ? The membership cost really isn't that much if you pay annually. Or even just buy one month and copy all the data you need/want to someplace offline, if money is tight. That's really handy to know! I've seen the GC code written in a few logbooks (if not this one). Of the four, it was the second from the top, third from the top if you include the Basic-visible cache; the cache at the lower end of the two lakes. Thank you!

Thank you! I'm admittedly not on Facebook too often, but I do have an account. I'll definitely try to pop over! I'm in eastern Ont. Ah, interesting comparison! Now, I wonder why Groundspeak decided to make those premium caches invisible in the app - wouldn't it make more sense to tempt Basic members into upgrading by showing them the plethora of local caches they're missing out on? ? It's funny that they've done it with one group of premium caches but not the other. We did sign our name, yes! How does one go about logging a cache that doesn't appear on the map? We logged a not-in-app cache in our neighbourhood by going through the website, but this one doesn't show up anywhere for me. The logbook inside the cache didn't appear to have a cache name/code written on it, or I assume I could search it?

Ha! Well, in our case it's that I wanted to "test the waters" with the kids before going whole hog with it. It does make sense that they'd reserve a portion of the functionality / opportunities for paying members. I run a participation website myself and we do something similar in offering some free content but more advanced stuff behind a paywall. We actually did what you do for one in our neighbourhood today, looked it up on the browser to get the approximate location. I figured we could place caches relatively early in this try-out phase since they're in areas we walk regularly anyway and would be easy to maintain even if the kids lose interest. Thank you so much for the super info! It is really enlightening and helpful. We'll have to investigate some of the other types if the kids take a shine to this. Sure! Initially we were looking at 44.946895, -76.042306 and one other along the same trail. When we went back today, I ended up finding a spot further down the trail in a gap between the four "taken" areas, and we moved ours there (double-checked availability with the "Hide a geocache" page before we left to be sure!). Interestingly, as we were returning to move that one, I happened to notice a lightly-worn trail curving behind some cedars and, upon investigation, turned up a geocache that aligns with the location of one of those circles. It's been there since early in the summer, according to the log. The D/T of the site were both super easy so I have to assume it's Premium (if indeed it is) for some other reason, then.

Curiously, I just checked the website map and it shows something different again! ? The website displays (as green markers) the D/T > 2 caches just like it does the D/T < 2 ones - I have to click on each to see the rating. There are at least a couple I see here of higher D/T that are not shown in my app map. It also shows the non-traditional caches in orange (eg. that are gray in my app) and, interestingly, all the information about them that I need to upgrade to premium in the app for. I can also view the Adventure Lab info that is protected in my app. Disabled caches are shown in gray. However, it still does not show anything at the location of the four red circles in the planning map... So I have to assume that these are newly submitted caches awaiting approval? (In which case, we'll look forward to them being published! They're in one of our favourite areas.)

Thanks for the answer. So then what are the gray cache markers in the app map? When I click on them it prompts me to upgrade to a Premium member to view details. I assumed those were the ones with higher difficulty/terrain and/or non-traditional type. There are no markers at all (of any colour) shown in the app map in the area we were planning to plant our caches. Are certain unavailable-to-Basic cache types represented with a gray upgrade-required marker and other ones just not shown at all?

Hello! I was wondering what the reason was for the discrepancy between the map in the app and the one that shows the red "taken" circles on the planning map when you go to "Hide a geocache". The latter shows more circles than are visible as active caches in the app. Are these submitted-but-not-yet-approved caches? Archived caches? Something else? When I was doing the research about placing a cache, it didn't mention needing to check the planning map specifically (at least, I don't think it did?) so I was working off the map in the app when I was ensuring the necessary distance for our placement. When I went to submit our caches I was surprised to discover four red circles in the area we'd chosen that I'd thought was empty. Mostly I'm just bummed cuz I was doing this with the kids as a homeschool project and they were really excited, we spent lots of time picking just the right spot, etc, and now we have to trudge back to pick them up again. Thanks for any clarification.