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While I don't entirely disagree with your standpoint, it is somewhat perched on the top of a slippery slope in this particular instance, because a similar argument might be raised about the ridicules changes to the design and layout, which don't look tooooo bad if you happen to have a high resolution, wide screen monitor. Now, while these are becoming more common or dare I say mainstream, it makes little difference to all those people out there with 17" monitors, non wide screen laptops or even brand new notebooks. I trust you would not propose we all have to go out and buy new hardware to suit the GC website design

I would strongly disagree. If you look at my posting a little further up this page about the waypoint issue, you will see there is an acknowledgement of the issue within 20min. With regard this whole IE6/IE8 and non tech babble. I would again have to disagree with some comments made here. If I look at my local caching community, a diverse bunch from all walks of life, that I've met through events and am happy to now call friends, can be used as an average cross sections of cachers, then I would have to say that the majority are fairly tech savy. As to IE... it's common practise for corporates to lock down things like browsers... but then again they do have additional levels of security and firewalls in place. For those not in a corporate environment... why on earth do you have windows updates turned off ?!? I'm assuming it must be turned off because otherwise you would have all the updates, including IE8, so there shouldn't be any techie stuff. That said I'm in no way condoning the related issues with GC. I believe that browser and cross platform compatibility should be at the top of the developers brief in big, bold, underlined, bright red text for any website, let alone one with as large international user base as GC has. Not to mention fully beta testing EVERYTHING before going live. Thats basic development 101.

I'll second that.

Until now I've only been mildly annoyed by the new changes to the GC site, mainly from the visual layout point of view, but now I am really pissed... While editing a new cache and working with the waypoints I've just discovered that ALL the waypoints have reverted to the main coordinates, in other words, when you edit a waypoint it does not remember the coordinates for that waypoint and automatically substitutes the main coordinates entered in the cache edit page. Now I'm going to be forced to revisit the waypoints and get the coordinates again. I don't know if this issue has been picked up by anyone else, but I've not seen anything about it in the fix lists and I would have thought this constituted a major flaw in the backend. It used to work fine, so it's clearly something which got broken in the update.

Whats to review... not only is it incorrect, but many people here have already asked for it to be changed back to My/Mine.

Thanks Nate. Hope one of the changes is bring back the old format. I'll second that.

Are you using Windows Server/Vista + Firefox? Seems to be a weird bug only with that setup. We're looking into it. Let me know if you have a different setup. I'm seeing the same thing in WinXP/IE8

Why mess with something if it isn't broken?!? I can understand the need to fix things that are broken in order to improve the site and functionality. I can even understand making some changes to the code in order to better accommodate future updates to integrate other languages, but this could have been done while at the same time keeping the existing layout the same or near enough. The addition of all the extra space, line spacing and increased font size has detracted from the site not improved it in my opinion. I do hope GC intends to take cognisance of the negative response to the change and fix it asap. I would assume that much of these layout changes have been done via CSS and should therefore not be too much of a problem to fix... after all, thats part of the power of CSS in the first place. In this context "Yours" is completely wrong and it should be changes back to "Mine". I'm one of those people using 1024x768. The increase in while space, padding and font size now means a lot more wrapping... for example the cache list next to the map, many of the names are now on 2,3 or even 4 lines because the column width is too narrow. This now only works after you move the map or zoom, which is annoying. I've seen the same thing and it is particularly annoying when the information/text in the short and long descriptions has been separated for a reason so as NOT to be in a single paragraph. In addition I have also noticed the the text boxes in the cache edit screen have now been made narrower. If anything they should have been made wider. Now we have to do yet more scrolling.

I only snuck in one

May your finds be plentiful, your hides cunning and your bugs travel far and wide without getting lost along the way. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and all the best for 2010.

I was very concisions of that possibility.... so I stuck a large stone in there first

I believe it is a Parrot Beaked Tortoise.

An Event is treated as a cache so no dipping. The ONLY exception that was allowed was for FTF's as many are micros that do not take TB's and coins. Unfortunately that has created opportunity for TB's to be dipped even if the cache was large enough to take a TB. Lesson learned for future races!! Ok, so bugs must be placed into an event for it to count as "attending an event"... it does not literally mean just attending the event?

Quick question... are events caches excluded from the dipping rule or will it be counted as a dip, assuming the bug is not taken by someone else at the event?

Ok, you will be familiar with the basic functions of Google Maps and probably Google Earth as well. You may have also seen options pop up asking if you want directions. Well, until recently, directions and routing (like your turn by turn GPS) was not possible for South Africa, but now you can do this. You can click on a spot or type in an address and then route to it from another point. If you do this on a GPS enabled phone it will route you from your current location. The street view is quite simply just that. If you go into Google Maps and head for one of the major US or European metropolitan areas, lets say London for example, you will notice that the "pegman" on top of the zoom slider will change from grey to orange. This means that street view is available. You can then drag him onto any road (available street views will be highlighted in blue when you drag him across the map) and you will see a street view, such as this example of Trafalgar Square approaching from Whitehall road. You can then move along the roads in any direction, turn at junctions and look around you at shops, signs etc. as if you were there. Hope that helps.

Very Cool. I'll have to play with that a bit. Now if we can just get street view

Thanks cincol, I didn't realise besem had already been in contact with you. I'll wait a while longer and send another email in the meantime.

Oops, double post

I have a question regarding the rules pertaining to grabbing or virtually retrieving and dropping a TB. Here is the situation... One of my TB's was recently retrieved by a fellow cacher in a different cache from the one it is reported to be in. On checking the logs it would appear the TB was retrieved by a noobie cacher and placed in the second cache, without logging it on the TB page. I have attempted to contacted the noob with no response. So my questions is, can I virtually retrieve it from the cache and place it in the second one, so that the cacher that now physically has it can log the find and move it along without any penalty?

It does indeed. I picked up a c6625 yesterday, installed the app a short while ago and it seems to work just fine. Will play with it more over the weekend.

I was going to start a new thread for this question, but seeing as it's been braught up here anyway, What would be considered a reasonable amount of time for a TB to be MIA before I start questioning people or should I start right away? One of my TB's (not a racer), according to the logs is not in the cahce it's reported to be in. Only one other cacher has been there since it was placed (a reletive newbie based on the number of finds) so I'm thinking that maybe they took it and forgot to log it, but on the other hand, maybe they didn't and I won't know until I aks I guess.

Has anyone used the "app that shall not be mentioned" on a landscape orientated device (320x240) and if so, does it look and work just as well? All the screen shots seem to be take from a portrait orientated device.

Hmmm, now there is an idea... I foresee a braai/picnic event coming up as soon as a the weather gets more predictable

Geocachers do it for the hunt

I think you are right, breakfast is probably better. A fellow cacher has suggested a place called New York Bagels in Sea Point (just outside the V&A) as being a popular place for events. They don't appear to have a website, but I did find this about them (click here). I've emailed them for more information.