tiki-4

Would like 3 regular and one silver please. Thanks, Tracy tiki-4

Requesting 5, please.

We created a wooden nickel just before our 1 yr anniversary. Now we are over 1000 and i am working on an actual coin. Talk about all the options available!!! I too started working on our signature to trade to moun10bike ; He was very helpful in getting us heading down the path.

Other than a post on the AGA site, is there a web order site that works?

Would like to get 2 if there is a wait list. Thanks, tiki-4

sent payment for three via paypal. Thanks! tiki-4

I buy less, but that is because the non-trackable are less likel to be as good for trading.

Wow, humor....love the posts and glad to see some reality.

We would take 2.

Will we get an email if we make the cut on the waiting list?

We would take two bronze.....

These are cool! Wonder who gets the profit? Probably buy 5 as well.....

Nice to see the passion about virtuals....thought i was in the Lone Gunman club.... I all for this category!!!

158/775 = 20% Waldorf, Maryland

Please provide an example of what you consider as a new WM 'virtual'... I have a better understanding of what you mean by subjective or wow...it took me a few times rereading what you had written to understand what you were saying (probably tired?) Most of the virtuals i have completed have volumes of historical or local data. Does the WM entry sheet allow for the same? I bounced into some that i havent even thought about and they all apeared to be short and concise as the ones i have been exploring and creating entries for. I never saw the dead bird virt, nor would i want to and you are right, it is a very poor idea, but than i wonder why it was approved??? Everyone wants to blame someone for whats happening to their various perspectives or versions of the game. As i understand the process: the reviewers have to follow specific guidelines on what can or cant be approved with a final appel to GC. With the virtual, there was a lot of different types of requirements to answer the question or get the find, but you didnt have to worry about being the 1st to find; you didnt have to worry about forgetting to take 3 different pictures; and sometimes, if you lost the picture or data to prove your visit, you could appeal to the owner and describe the details and they might let you log it. As i am learning about WM, not only does the manager dictate how the waymarks are created, but they get to dictate how another player may or may not log the waymark that is listed by another player in between the category manager and the waymark creator. This seems to be putting a lot of control into one persons hand. The string of comments at Creating New Waymark Categories, Deciding the process seem to show that i am not the only person asking about the managment selection or process. I really do like what Jermey and GC have done with WM, but it definitely isnt the panacea for our woes to losing the LC's or the virts. It is in the terrible two's stage and hopefully it will evolve. And like children, it will have it's own personality. Heres hoping to a healthy growth!!! And searching for a container in the ground or searching the frescoe of the Jefferson monument to figure out the answer to a question is still searching. Is searching for someone lost at sea somehow different than searching for someone lost in the woods? Not to those who are lost, and while the means and methods vary, they still use the same basic search process for both.

For all of us who like and/or use lighthouses can we put The Leprechauns on the 1st one that gets tipped in??? Dont you think the process will be laborous for subcategory submissions? General group comments about categories under the 3 major titles would be logical. Sub-cats should be commented by those who operate in them.....

too true, good idea!

YES!!!

as a tent camper, i totally agree. it should be a category and subs could be tents; cabins; mobile; pop-ups

this is a cool idea!

I did make a recommendation just along these lines: Sub Category proposals Dont understand how landlocked lighthouses could get it's own and lighthouses didnt.......???!!!!

Yes to this, as i tried to recommend something similiar: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...opic=107190&hl= NO to giving dibs to the previous LC owner. Any LC owner who archieved their cache without a viable replacement doesnt deserve to get the lock on the new ones. They got tired, thought it wasnt the way the game should be played, or just got mad and should not be on the list as a manager.

Another problem is to open the PM's out to cachers who havent been in the game as long, but have the interest and desire. It can be evaluated by looking at their stats; asking them point blank; or talking to who they cache with as a starter. I personally asked to PM one that is currently being managed by someone who might have taken it on becuase no one had stepped up, and it was very much along the lines of my own interests, but no reply. What i still havent seen is a clean way to advertise a catagory, get the required comments, and actually see it go up on the directory. I did notice some more categories and sub-cats, but never saw how they got there. Some of that has to do with all of the side chats, but maybe the path ahead is being trailblazed by which way we dont want to go...

Jeremy, is the amount of traffic on GC wrt virtuals the cause for shifting them to WM? I know that the LC's had a lot more traffic than was planned for, but are the virts taking a beating because they are in the middle of the traffic draw? I like some of what WM has to offer, but i do not like the lack of historical data that the virtuals provided. The locationless cache can track it's lineage to the WM by direct comparison. Are the WM going to evolve to have the same sort of detail that is included in a virt? The last problem is that the gate keepers are not playing by the same rules as what governs the virts. The loging requirements vary depening on the whim of some uber cacher who happened to be picked to manage the subcatagory, and that alone makes it more LC than virt.

A comment on this thread had to do with the WM and that it was a replacement for LC & Virts, but we lost the braging rights, and the ability to add to our 'counts'. And the WM site, while neat in it's own right (with the exception of the weird rules on some WM for loging requirements), it is in no way a replacement for the virtuals, which taught or brought attention to something. If the search feature can be made to work for other countries, than it would be really good for the whole community. But it is only a BETA, so the issues are supposed to be brought up here to help find solutions....at least that was the original intent of the bb/forums/internet, right?