How can there still be doubt on this subject? Geocaching got its start as a USENET forum where people posted the first 'geocaches' for others to find. Since only 1 cache is listed for Canada at the date shown in the earlier posts, which is Ken Kane's, how could any be registered before hand? Without a cache being listed for others to find how could it be a geocache? Even if others were placed before Ken's, which there is no evidence for, the fact that no one could find them due to them not being listed does not qualify them as 'geocaches'.