bmcilvoy

http://start.earthlink.net/newsarticle?cat...D80L8GIG4_story Lacking a gag order from the Mods, should GPS data be allowed in the courts? Bernie

Quote from Woody, "bmcilvoy: Yes those were placed a while back too. Not saying that they weren't good caches or that anyone who places a cache first, don't have good caches. It's all based on what is stated to be a problem (vacation caches). True and honest cachers have to go through hoops and others who go around and cheat don't have to. Are things better that way? No. Real cachers are restricted while fake ones aren't." Woody, in a way I agree some (maybe very few) vacation caches should be approve. Here's an approved vacation cache I did almost two years ago. Mods, I hope I grandfathered in on this one, as it is a classic and I would hate for it to be removed. Batman Cache by Troycorr, Bmcilvoy, Jeremy, and The Joker Hidden: 1/27/2002 Use waypoint: GC3641 Logged Visits (13 total). This is probably the most remote place in all of California - nobody lives for many mile around. Any cache out here is a vacation cache. The geocachers that has found this cache has praised it highly. There should be some room (not much at all) for a vacation cache. Bmcilvoy

Quote from Woody, "My proposition is to make it where a person has to find a certain amount before they can hide one. It definitely would not hurt the sport any." I disagree with this proposition. I placed two caches before I logged a find. Railroad Spike Cache (California) placed 8/15/01 Rising sun over Chicken Coop (California) placed 8/19/01 Most geocachers in my area (Riverside) consider these to be classics. They both have finds logged in the past 30 days and have withstood the test of time so far. My first logged find was 9/3/01. Bmcilvoy

Just voted. You're 14 votes in the lead. Good luck and best wishes. Bmcilvoy

Doc "I am not a lawyer, however I try to warn people to stay away from them." Thank you. WARNING!!! THE SURGEON GENERAL, "says stay away from the "Are You Experienced?" cache. It may complicate life." Bernie PS: Does that work?

Team Og Rof A Klaw "The secret is to keep from having a lot of money. I would be glad to help." I had that secret for all of my life. Bernie

I also am not a lawer, however I try to do my best to warn people about danger. My cache "Are You Experienced?" is placed in a most dangerous place. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=68272 There are no hidden dangers, just obvious dangers, as shown in the photos and in my write up. Is there more I should of done to cover my a$$? Bernie

team snafu, Well said. Bernie

Bloencustoms, "Next people will be telling me my clothes are out of style." Not me. However, my girlfriend thinks you look great in your spandex bell bottems. I think I might of found your DeLorean. Does it has the license plate NNOSENT? Bernie

Hi Bloencustoms, Your problem, as I see it, is you should go into setup on your GPSr and initialize the date and time. Thanks for the humor, Bernie

Jaime and Jason That way funny! I nearly fell out of my chair. Thanks, Bernie

Quote by mtn-man "I bet you can't do it." Is this a gentleman's bet or are you buying the rounds? Rounds as in drinks - not the other type. Bernie

Car, I'm sorry, my attention span (like the pika) wasn't long enought to read your post. Bernie

jeff, Until I know more I'm incline to agree with you. Bernie

Hi Jeremy, "With great disappointment, we have removed the use of tags from sig lines. This was a difficult decision, but over the past few weeks we have received far too many complaints about the effect that sig lines have to a discussion. Slow download times on modems, distracting sig lines that affect the ongoing conversations, and responses being more signature line than response. Profiles were created to allow you to express yourself. Please do so there. If you want to add text sig lines, feel free, but don't abuse this feature. Thanks, Jeremy Irish Groundspeak - The Language of Location Posts: 1185 | From: Emerald City, USA | Registered: September 01, 2000" I really don't understand what's going here. Could you explain better? Your buddy, Bernie

The intersection of Highways 314 & 19 is about: N29°20.72' W81°44.18' Cheers, Bernie

Kealia, Which one of you came back? Cheers, Bernie

You folks are very intertaining. Thanks to all for making my Sunday morning fun! IBTL, I hope. Cheers, Bernie

Hi Peter AKA Agreatscot, quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hi Bernie, WOW! Thanks for sharing that. it really makes you think about the chances we take without weighing the risks. With 20/20 hindsight three questions come to mind. 1. How much water should you have had. Not that you woukd want to attempt this again. 2. August??? Maybe early April or late October. 3. How much better would it have been with a GPSr?" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Often in life it is difficult to accurately weigh the risks (amount of water to back pack in this case) when you have unknown factors. The major unknown factor on this trip was the time required to complete the hike over unknown terrain at night with no trails. I study my USGS Topo's for months before the hike. I first decided upon the route. Then I was faced with the major unknown factor, time to complete the hike. The gain in elevation is just under 7000' and distance about 15 miles with a loss of elevation of 6000'. After many hours of thought, I gave 18 hours as my best guess. Had it been 18 hours instead of the 24 hours it took us, the 12 liters of water per person would of been enough. 1. 16 liters. I did do it again 12 years later. However, this time I choosed late March. Still had water trouble, but that's another story. 2. Yes, August with day temps around 120 degrees. Every month of your life is a great one. 3. Much better than sending friends off in opposite directons on the road to find our second car in the darkness. I only had 1 car key with me, who to give it to? I lucked out and gave it to the friend headed in the right direction to the car. GPSr didn't exist in 1978. Respect the desert. Bernie

I agree with what others has said - Good advice. I might add that most people under estimate their water requirements to survive just one day in the summer desert. In August of 1978, I convinced three of my foolish friends to hike with me from salton sea (below sea level) to Rabbit peak (elevation 6666'), then to villiger peak, then down to Anza Berrago, where we had parked a second car. I told them I think this hike should us us about 18 hours and to bring at least 12 liters of water (25 pounds of water on your back). Before we started hiking, I insisted on seeing everybody's amount of water - this is no place to cheat because you don't want to carry the weight. This adventure is all cross country with no trails. None of us ever been here before. We're doing map, compass and dead reconing all night long under a full moon. The temp that night went down to a chilly 90 degrees. At day break I'm taking another drink of water and discovered I only have 4 liters left in my pack. Bummer. Since I brought these fools here (also I'm the fool in charge), I demanded to inventory everybody's water. Two had 5 liters and one had 6 liters. Eight hours later I drink my last drop of water. My pack is very light now - how I wish it was heavy with water again. Two hours later, I'm dry heaving up all mosture that is left in my body. I know if I don't get water soon, I'll be dead in a few hours. I asked my friends if they had any water to share. Everybody is out of water except Tom. Tom won't say how much water is in his pack, if any, much less give me any. I'm ready to KILL Tom for water, I'm just too weak. We finally get to the road in the darkness of the early night. No moon yet and no car with water in the trunk. It's dark and we don't which direction to go on the road for the car. All I could do was lay down in the hot desert sand and cried to my friends about water and passed out. What seem like a second to me (I'm uncouncious) was actually about 20 minutes to others. When I regain concouices, my face is being slapped every which way, and water is being pord all over my body. I don't need water on my body, I NEED WATER TO DRINK! I grab a bottle closest to me and took a sallow. Big mistake! That swallow shot out of my mouth like a guiser. I'm crieding again. Wet my salty t-shirt and sucked on it. I was taken to a hospital and releast three days later. Respect the desert. Bernie PS: Tom was out of water also, he was just trying to keep our hopes up and keep us going. Glad I didn't kill him for his water. PPS: Folks, forgive me, I can't spell.

Hi intense, quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I need more difficult geocaches! Distance from me, time, and cost are no object. Thanks!" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not a problem. Check out my "Are You Experienced?" cache. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=68272 The AYE cache has no finds or posted attemps. This is probably due to my write-up, warnings and photos of the AYE cache. Please be safe, know your skills and limitations and don't get in over your head. Bernie PS: I know I can't spell.

Time to lighten up folks. I have lots of cave, bears and rock climbing stories. How about a cave story so I don't get off topic? Twelve years ago my sister gave my Father and Mother about 20 acres in Kentucky to build their retirement house on. I fly out there from California to address a concern. Water. Where to drill the well for water? I spent a few days of wandering around the 20 acres, by myself, checking things out. I first found a small creek down in the hallow. I thought the creek would be good for now. But, would it dry up later in the summer? Would it freeze up in winter? I was wandering around again the next day when I discovered something REALLY coooooooool! MY PARENTS OWN A CAVE! I must say that gaining the entrance of the cave was somewhat tricky. I'm a rock climber and don't really understand mud. I go inside about 40' and it is DARK. I can hear water somewhere and a voice in my head. The voice in my head is saying, Bernie, "you stupid fool - come back when somebody knows where you're at and bring a whole bunch of flashlights". Next day, I rounded up 3 flashlights with fresh batteries and told Mom and Dad I should be back in 4 - 6 hours. Mon insisted upon given me another flashlight. You gotta love Mom. Back in the cave I found a fair amount of water falling from the roof of the cave. Maybe 5 gallons a minute. Bats are everywhere. Love those gentle creatures. I went back about a 1/4 mile and the cave got small. I'm talking it got really small. Then I hear that voice in my head again, "Bernie, you fool ........." I was so happy to come back to my parents and tell them you got WATER. It took me several days with help. I placed (2) 250 gallons plastic containers below the the falling water in the cave. Ran electrical line and pvc pipe to the pump I placed in the cave. Mom and Dad got water now. Love them, Bernie

N.........r, We've all said things we wish we haven't of said. I like you N.........r. Please, can't you and RK kiss and make up? Bernie

RK, Buddy, you're being trolled. You're A-OK in my book. Don't feed the Trolls. Bernie

People die every day. Some might be caving, some might be climbing mountains, but most people will die in their bed. Lord - Please don't let me die in my bed. Bernie