Strider - King of Gondor

point taken....me and you and our combined pennies aren't really worth any litigation, but do you find obtaining access permission for placement a difficulty. For example - you put a cache in your river/sewer cache or bridge truss, i assume they are owned/operated by a municapailty, so if they grant you permission, there is the "legal avenue" of pursuit by lawyers for cachers not willing to accept the responsibility of a 5/5. Thus the learyness/refusal of the property owner to allow access......they have more pennies!!!! Unless they are tax delinquent/non-exsistent/abandoned. Not trying to be AR, but maybe I am too much of a newbie to understand the gist of placing cool caches such as your collection

Your pyscho urban caches got me thinking of some classic sites within the midwest. I see/understand how permission was granted at the likes of "Hot Glowing", with it's ownership being basicaly delinquent. I would think liability issues to any past RP/PRP or delinquent owner, would find them (caches) very disturbed at such placements. Much less your own liability exposure......you have numerous listings of cautions, disclaimers and warnings that should exsponge yourself of much liability, but at the same time you are recommending PPE..... and nothing, I repeat nothing is defensiable when you get lawyers chewing on it. Of course maybe I should do the cache , and then state my opinion....

That basically sums it up...I do both, actually in a golf league, at a hobunk country course, which me and my partner hoof it, for the exercise...lots of yardage, when you don't follow the principle of "the shortest distance between two points is a straight line)..oh yeah and the beer rounds out the day. There are those, alot within our league, that are possessed w/ golf, talk it, wear it, dream it, talk it, spend way to much money on it ($500 on a driver, 250 on a putter) I got the wal-mart variety (i.e. The parking lot cache). It's great cameradrie, but I equally like those peaceful jaunts in the woods seeking the caches. In fact, If i had to choose, Geocaching would be the choice, just have to figure out how to get a golf cart rigged out for caching ....and work in a beer girl

Wooow. Can you say S-U-N-D-A-N-C-E

Night caching is fun, i exspecially like it when prepared.....I've done several just because i got a late start and refuse to turn back because the sun is disappearing....breadcrumbs are a savior, exspecially when my small mag-light runs dry..... As duly noted by several others ....usually muggle free , but when muggles arrive, They are not easily persuaded that I'm just lurking around in the woods to .... A call to the local police force usually follows

I went caching on a FTF and all I got was a T-Shirt , actually a nice t-shirt from the local state park friends group. Sure would be nice to have went for a couple plane tickets, MP3 players, a load of SILVER!!!!

You might want to change the name of the book to: Broke Back Cache Why is it that some of the nicest parks, and several good caches have the "lone cowboys parked on the range", which they have every right to do so, just like we do the caching thing. The hardest thing is that the "cowboys" typically are rather alert muggles, so discrection is difficult. I have never had problems at these suspect "herding" areas, but never hangout to long after the find, and definitely avoid the nocturnal visit.

WOW In my real life, I deal with hazwaste issues, this one would take some large hickorys... buckle/suit up

Did you say "creepy skeletal remains".....found this racked up at a now archived cache site: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LU...31-ee62b0f34b38 or interesting fungus...... http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LU...f2-1873cef79da2

This would work best if you had a bushy hairdew and glasses to match napolean....maybe plaid pants to complete the package....... Lug around a clip board, tell them your looking for a survey marker.....

The only thing that worries me about this and similar methods is what to do if the people who are actually supposed to carry the clipboard and measuring tape are the muggles. Don't measure the same thing that they are measuring. ....The clipboard has been my savior....."looking for survey marker"... if you run into another real "official" , just confess !!!!

I don't get caught up with gender issues when it comes to snakes, exspecially if they rattle. RUN AWAY. But while on the subject, I think female snakes pack a wallop, based on my research with other species. Happy Trails >>> STRIDER

I'm cheap and my wife likes me that way, she doesn't like those expensive boy toys, yellow rules..... but the one thing it lacks is the mapping feature (duly noted by the Propers). I have more then once found myself on the wrong side of the river, cliff.....etc, that has me trudging back to the vehicle, thinking bring a chain saw next time, cut down a tree, and float across....or ...upgrade......or enjoy the hike!!!! Happy Trails >>> STRIDER

Check this out.......... http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=62421 over a 1,000 posts or corrupt, evil ideas..... Happy Caching

I would down size to firecracker/M-80 less impact, but should shake any culprites into a fast trot

A picture is worth a thousand words........ Auntie needs a wet suit!!!!

IMO this one

That would be really cute...might have to try

You could always go to the county seat, recorders office and get a copy of the CSM (certified survey map) go find a corner pin, and you can project you property line from there......otherwise, go higher a friendly surveyor, who would gladly shoot you a line for a price.

This has been my experience too. You have to remember that in most cases the hider doesn't want to get torn apart by thorns and covered with mud while placing the cache. He usually finds an easy route. Nearly every time I scrambled over rocks, through thick brush and thorns, I found an easy way out after finding the cache. Also be aware that some parks have a "stay on the trail" rule. If the park does, then bushwacking is not good for our sport. My sentiments exactly....nurmerous bushwacks lead to a trail just a little bit beyond the cache, while taking the trail sometimes you find it doesen't lead you there. Specifying trail use in the cache listing always helps in making this determination, and minimizes pissing off the property owners , which is a key to the sport

WOW....... I got to get out to the shop and craft up some creative imitations Thanks for sharing

Not sure if it is a boy thing, but my halflings are all male, and enjoy caches with substance (aka no virtual/micros). The eldest, 8yrs, is getting beyond the "prize" items, and enjoys the pursuit of the sport. The Kids cal the GPS unit the "pathfinder", and love to be in the lead.....just have to convince them that a straight line between two points, is not always a good idea!!!

In urban park settings i like the clipboard, and throw on my engineering consulting jacket and start pacing around, flipping papers back and forth . Always grab the cache and move to another location for evaluation. In the woods..... start babbling, and hitting you head.....Rain Man imitation . Actually kids are a dam good excuse . I was stumped when i hit a cache that had a USFS training activity in process. Lots of green trucks, lots of people, lots of tags on trees.... At first i ran away, then returned after 4:30, they had disappeared, but some returned. Should have brought the camo & nite googles