diehard50248

I thought I'd follow up to this posting now that I've got a couple of weeks experience with my new 450t... This past weekend I received my new copy of City Navigator and got all of North America loaded to my 4GB card. It works flawlessly and tracks to the roads as it's supposed to. Now that I've gotten used to this device I can honestly say I like it better than my 60CSx. I say this becuase I was a BIG fan of the 60CSx. It took some trial and error, but the Oregon does everything my 60CSx could do and then some. The touch screen is slick and the "paperless" features have already come in handy while geocaching. If I were to do it over again I'd skip the extra cost of the electronic compass and the pre-loaded TOPO maps. I will be recommending a version of the Oregon to all my geocaching buddies. Thanks to everyone that replied! Diehard

I called Garmin Support this morning. You guys were right. Once a City Nav map is unlocked to a GPS, it stays with that unit forever. I have to buy a new City Nav disc in order to unlock it to my new Oregon. I guess you live an learn. I did a re-test of my Oregon vs. my 60CSx in a city park over lunch today. The accuracy is much much better now. I'm guessing the satalite reception wasn't fully engaged the first time I compared the two (when i took the Oregon right out of the box). I think I'm going to like the new Oregon. Thanks for all of you help!

So I can't choose which unit my City Nav is used on??? If I call Garmin can't they just transfer the City Nav "unlock" from the 60csx to the new Oregon? Again, this seems a bit "off" to me. I'm planning to sell my 60CSx. When I sell it, what happens if someone else registers it with Garmin? What happens to the map? Do they just automatically get the unit AND the map? This goes back to my initial complaint...if I paid for the City Nav, I should be able to use it as I please. I can accept that it can only be used on one unit, but surely I should be able to pick which unit to use it on. I can't wait to talk to Garmin Support about this stuff! Diehard50248

How would I got about removing my City Nav from my 60CSx so I can used on my Oregon instead?

Thanks everyone!!! I used the Oregon Wiki site to understand and/or fix each of the issues I mentioned in my initial email. I'm still disappointed that I have to buy a separate City Nav map for each unit. My thought is this...if I purchase a map from Garmin, I should be able load it on all of my registerd Garmin products. I look at it as a "reward" for being a repeat customer. That being said, I understand the Garmin is a business out there to make money. Allowing people to load the map on multiple registed products means people could abuse the situation by buying GPS's, registering them, loading them with maps, then selling the pre-loaded units for a profit. In the end I wish Garmin would allow maybe two downloads per map. That seems reasonable. Oh well. Just getting a few things off my chest I guess. Thanks again for all of you help!!! Diehard50248

Oops. I just completed my thoughts with a full description on another post. Please ignore this one. Thanks!

I just got a new Garmin Oregon 450t to replace my trusty 60CSx. I hate to say it, but so far I'm NOT impressed. Questions/Issues/Concerns: 1 - I have a 2009 City Navigator DVD that I can't seem to get unlocked to this new unit. I bought a 4GB microSD card then downloaded the North America's. Everything looked ok from the MapSource stand point. But when I turn on the GPS, it says "can't unlock maps". I should be able to load my City Nav to all of my Garmin products right? 2 - The Topo/basemap includes roads/highways/streets but when my tracking option is on, my "tracks" show up several hundred feet off the roads I'm driving on. If I'm driving on the road but the unit says I'm 200 feet south of the road, that leads me to believe the thing isn't working right, or the whole "map" is shifted to the north or something. I've tried calibrating the unit, but that didn't seem to help. 3 - The GPS doesn't function while it plugged into my car's cigarette lighter power cord?!?! One of the things I love about my 60CSx is that I can plug it into my car to avoid using the batteries. This is essential when using the City Nav to direct me to where I'm going. I was TOTALLY shocked when i plugged in my Oregon and the screen changed to the computer/GPS picture. How could Garmin take away this feature if they expect people to by the City Nav for these handhelds? Basically it means we have to use batteries 100% of the time. I just can't believe they took away the power cord adaptability. I plan to call Garmin on Monday to help answer some of these questions. Unfortunatley they aren't open on the weekends. If anyone out there can help answer some of my questions/concerns/complaints I would be greatful. Diehard

Just got a new Garmin Oregon 450t. I hate to say it, but so far I'm NOT impressed. As luck would have it,

I looked at the Garmin manual, and I don't see this explained. Am I missing it, or is there somewhere else I'm supposed to be pulling information from? Is there a "one stop shop" to explain how loading waypoints is supposed to work?

Got my new 60CSx today. Hooked it to the PC to download some geocaches. Clicked on a few caches to "Send to Garmin". The files show up within my Removeable Disk Drive as expected in a folder called "Garmin". Within that folder is another called "gpx". Within that are all the GC numbers I'm trying to download. They're listed as "GPX File" types. To me this means the GC's are stored in my SD card on the GPS unit. So the question is: Why don't these geocaches show up in my GPS's geocache list? What am I missing? Diehard

I read that the TOPO maps software can be loaded and reloaded without any unlocking issues. Is that a true statement? So if I bought a used copy off Ebay or something, I could load it without any issues? I also read that the City Navigator software does have strick unlocking codes, so in the case of the city maps, I should just buy new?

I recently purchased my first GPS - the Garmin 60CSx. I bought it based on information and opinions found on this website...so thanks for your help! As you might imagine, I'm totally pumped to dive into learning about the features and options the CSx offers - specifically for geocaching. My first question is do I [/i]need to purchase the TOPO and City maps that I keep reading about? My GPS is scheduled to arrive next week, so I haven't been able to play with it yet, but reading map related topics leaves me wondering if my GPS will be "good to go" for caching, or if I'm required to plop down another wad of cash (no pun intended) before I can use it. Diehard