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I'm so very glad you are not yet aware of such a thing.

Serious patience is required. Do not give in.

I sure hope the missing submissions reappear. I can help with reviewing.

Thank you.

Sadly, over the years, too many players have been bullied into leaving our game. In Waymarking, there is now no more room for bullies.

I partnered with a <snip> and we created a category accepted by the Waymarking community. I was pleased with the number and the quality of the submissions to the category. Out of the blue, I received notice that there would be an officer vote for my removal. I then received the following. "Are you having trouble understanding what is required to post a LFP? Here is the criteria and it requires knowing about the contents. Long Description: Please include a description of the LFP, its location and some of the items which are inside. A minimum of TWO ORIGINAL SENTENCES are required." The vote and that rant imply that reviewer's errors require removal from the category. My sins as a reviewer should be revealed in a look at the category's Past Activity. I was not yet aware of the level of deception by the leader. I left quietly. Now that I am in the know, I will not remain quiet.

Am I riled up? You bet I am. He directly contacted me, convincing me that she was new to Waymarking, that she needed help creating a category, that she needed a spokesperson in the forums and then pushed me out. I would say that is extremely close to the definition of getting under my skin.

Because of the comments above, I'm feeling better. Because of the end result, I'm feeling worse. We were officers in this category from the very beginning because we believed and still believe it was a good category. We have both been pushed out of the category and things go on as if it's all okay? It is not.

I apologize for stealing your conversation. This thread might set a record for most views in the first 48 hours.

Eleven years later, he is allowed to play his game his way and we just ignore. He should be allowed to play any way he likes. He should not be allowed to lead the game any way he likes.

Thank you for the question. The category leader is stacking the list of category reviewers with either family members, family pets and/or faux persons to control all votes taken by the category. I suspect that each of those alleged officers would have the same ISP. Secondly, the category leader is unilaterally demoting officers who do not come from that list, without cause.

There are two unrelated issues here. 1) What can admin do about Waymarking leaders who abuse their position? 2) The forum here is or is not presently the official place to present issues about Waymarking.

"You could post some real truth in the forums. First, Trump2020 is not my account. They are a geocaching friend of mine I invited to try Waymarking. I have several family members, we all have geocaching accounts. Two of my dogs have their own accounts. Groundspeak don't have a problem with us supporting them by being paying members. I approve my own WM because I enjoy doing it. I don't follow your made up rules, I make up my own. Mine work best for me. But please tell all you troll friends that want me gone that you were offered a seat as the fourth person in the LFP group and you declined. I am the founder of the category. You are just choking on sour grapes. We were willing to leave, but your forums trash talk upset me enough that I choose to stay and lead and manage the category I founded.Blame yourself."

Thank you very much for that. Unfortunately, you could not prevent him from being the category leader AND the only Officer 1 for your category.

Groundspeak has officially replied many times now that Waymarking concerns should be resolved in the forums.

"You need to have your fact straight and proof of what you are posting in the forums. It's called slander, and there are legal actions I may take with you for public slander." What part of my slander is not true?

Approving your own waymarks, creating multiple waymarkers to control officer votes within a category, at what point does admin intervene, once and for all???

The shenanigans will continue forever now. Multiple waymarkers from one human being are back as officers. Surely we can all agree to prevent one individual from being more than one officer within one category. This is so wrong.

I remember returning from New York state back in '99 through an official unmanned crossing. Stop at the pylon in the middle of the road. Remove said pylon. Drive forward and stop. Reset said pylon. Those were the days. I originally had more to say here about hoping for an open border but this might not be a good time for such a conversation.

If you dismiss the gentleman (as should be done) and if you then need someone familiar with the category, feel free to contact me.

I feel your pain. After all my efforts to help create this category, this exact same thing happened to me last month. GOOD LUCK!

You got it.

You will experience many moments of confusion before you learn all the date and time variations concerning creating and visiting waymarks.

I agree 100% and there's not a thing we can do about it.

"There are no written guidelines that prohibit one from reviewing one's own waymarks, but it is generally regarded as poor policy, although I know some people who do it regularly. It is not so much a matter of ethics, in my view, but a matter of quality control. Why do authors hire proof readers? It is simply because we miss our own mistakes, and I don't want to miss my own mistakes in a waymark." Above is a 2014 quote from silverquill.