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I heard an update saying this has been moved, and parking within the pay zone should not be necessary. I still don't expect it's a park and grab, but it should be doable without a significant hike.

I spoke with a previous finder, as I haven't done this one. To get to 80, you have to park at Frenchman's Bar, at the top of the picture. It's not an extremely long walk to the cache, but people would be taking their chances if they choose not to pay. It isn't just a park and grab.

If it makes a difference, there's a required park fee for 78, 79, and 80. As I recall, it's something like $3 per car.

Okay, I've got a list and route. Almost all is within the yellow area. There's a couple that might not be, but I'd say they're within about a mile or so of the edge, if you've got some leeway. There are 10 caches here, all either with high favorite points, or of a type that people enjoy. Starting at your stop 23, Greenburg to 99 to Commercial to Hall. Tigard Library Geocache Adventure (44) GC4B1FX. It's another library cache, but this is about the best in the area. They have too options - the easy or the hard, so people can decide what they want to do. If this is too many library caches on the route, I'd suggest dropping one of the others, which are pretty normal and in small libraries. Hall to Bonita. Only Slightly Evil (18) GC36B36 Bonita to 79th to Bond. Fishing in the City (4) GC38RWA Bond to 76th to Durham to Upper Boones Ferry to 72nd. Choo Choo Kelloggs (14) GC5286X 72nd to Muroids Hidy Spot (12) GC4W6QG 72nd to the One, the Only (59) GC2C83V - this is listed as disabled, but recent finders assure that it's there and ready to go, and interesting. 72nd to Lower Boones Ferry to Jean to Lakeview to Don Lee. Adventures of Sock Monkey (230) GC2VMVW Don Lee to Lakeview to Jean to Lower Boones Ferry. A Walden Pond for Winos (24) GC29MM1 Boones Ferry to Quarry to Bonita. Hawkeye Pierce (18) GC300EB Bonita to 72nd to Dartmouth. Wager "NC*" (23) GC1JDY5 Dartmouth to 78th to Mapleleaf - puts you at your #24. --- Note that I haven't done most of these since they're on the more difficult side. I have done Choo Choo Kelloggs, and that's a fun one. But people I know have done them, and it looks like they're all interesting caches.

Glad to hear about pickleball. Since it's on, then you should combine the parking for #54 and #55. There's no reason to move the car between those. I have some ideas about things that could be added. Are your boundaries set? Are you just looking at adding a few caches along the route, or would you consider adding to the distance? I see a place where about 8 caches could be added in a loop, but it would go south a few miles into Tigard. Is that a problem? If not, I'll get the specs on the stops I'd suggest, and add them here.

One more comment on #32. What you wouldn't realize, is that the area has changed. The logs you saw about a path from the west are from over a year ago. Since then, beavers have dammed the waterway in the area, which is why the area has been flooded for so long, and so there is NO dry access to the cache for the forseeable future. If you check the cache owner's last comments, he said to either bring a boat or hip waders. The city is discussing what to do, so it is NOT a temporary situation. I'm not sure what the latest Google Earth says. I'd find it interesting if anyone can figure out how to get there, but people should be aware, and not waste their time trying to find a dry way in. If people want to do #26, they should be sure and do the "homework", which the cache owner tells people about. It also will not be a six minute stop. Just trying to set expectations correctly. From everyone I've heard from, it's worth the time, but it will put people behind schedule. I'll try and think about other caches that would be fun in the area that aren't already on the list. I can think of a couple that aren't too far off your route, but might be far enough that it couldn't just easily be added. I'll try and think up more and post.

I absolutely missed hungry instead of happy! Hungry is better. I noticed a few other things. Stops 9 and 10 will be the same parking location. Probably the place to park would be the credit union. Shouldn't be a problem at that hour. I doubt you want #32. It's been flooded for over a year and a half. No finds in that time. On #64, you want them to go to Amberwood, the North side of the park. Last time I heard, they would ticket cars parked on the west. #71 won't have much parking. It's a grc on a pretty busy road. I noticed there are 4 stops on Old Germantown road. That's a narrow back road with very little parking.

Sorry I couldn't make more comments earlier. I was juggling between 3 events today. So, first off, I don't know why you'd want to start with Happy Monkey. It's a box in a bush, and it's a good starter cache for kids. There's not huge amounts of parking, and ground zero is pretty small. If you selected based on location, you might do better with Travel Bug Bar and Grill. It's close to a park and ride in case people want to carpool. No one will question if there are multiple cars parked there all day. And ground zero is pretty large in case people want to find other people and make plans. Certainly not a difficult or interesting find, but a good meet up spot. For #26, that's intended to be an experience, and so it will take people significant time. Also, as part of completing the cache, finders must solve a handmade cryptix. It can be fussy, and I don't know if that's what you want. #27 is a library cache. Not sure people would want to come down here to do library caches. This is a pretty standard one. #29 is a typical grc. #52 is interesting. It involves doing a lot of counting and calculating around items in a park. It's a significant sized park, and many people end up having to walk around multiple times, so it's not exactly quick. Then the final is on private property, and there's no checker. It could be very disruptive to have people making mistakes, and searching the wrong private property. #54 is in a very public place. It used to have a lock on it. I don't know if the co has replaced or not. You might check with her. If not, you might check with her about if she's concerned about lots of people coming to ground zero. #55 is another standard library cache #64 is on an active disc golf course. If it's a nice day, there could be a problem with parking. Also with large groups of people out on the course. #65 is another interesting one. It involves going out in public and looking silly near a restaurant water feature. There's no cover from the traffic. People WILL see you. It has the potential of creating a disruption. #68 is a typical lpc. #72, I believe is on pcc property. It means that cachers will need to buy a parking permit. You might check with the cache owner to see if there are any exceptions in June, but I know they will ticket. #73 has very little parking. I already mentioned that the last cache is a library that will be closed then. And, I think that's it for the caches I know. I was talking with another local cacher, and he expressed another concern. Many of the Jewilks caches on your list are 3d printed caches. They're very nice, which is why they get a lot of favorite points. However, they can be fragile, and require extra effort to reassemble. You might check with the owners to be sure they don't have any concerns with lots of people coming.

I'm in the area, and I have comments on several in the list. Don't have time to send all, but, for example, the last one is at a library that closes at 5, so that won't work. There are also some that are gadget caches, and some that take a significant amount of time. I assume those are the kinds of comments you want. Will post detailed comments later today.