Team OV

Are we done yet...how about now....now?? These comments are made from discussing the cache with the owner and reviewer. Take their comments up with them. Pretty sure you know who they are since you referenced the cache. Guess you did strike your own nerve since you are still going on and on about this. Again, I am requesting you leave me out of this old topic. Regardless of your active status and other life.

Sure...lets go at be more childish. I was not embarrassed. I let it go because the cache owner that watched you vandalize the cache and I spoke again and you were not worth the trouble it was causing. One cranky old cacher does not warrant any more than what was already said. I let it go...why don't you!! By the way....this is not my cache so stop emailing me with your rude comments. The cache owner is the one who saw you and the cache owner and reviewer are the ones who stated you reported the cache. I merely inquired as to why it was archived and everything hit the fan. I am requesting in writting on a public forum that you do not contact me in anyway. You have stated your opinion and I do not care to continue the nasty name calling. This was resolved months ago. Refer to JohnnyVegas' pictures on the above thread at his interpretation of a buried cache. He complained and the cache was archieved prior to speaking with the cache owner. The cache he is picturing has upset him because he had a buried cache not get approved. There is not object used to dig up this cache. It was placed in a pre-exsisting box on the cache owners property. The lid is fully exposed above the ground. No digging was done to place the container. Favortism works both ways, I guess the wrong side got it this time. And I guess the fact that a grown man is destroying a cache based on his own hurt feelings should upset a few people and it is being condoned. OK lets go at it. I did not report your cache to any reviewer. I just posted a photo of it in the forums.. From what I was told yesterday, the reviewer was out caching and he found your cache on his own. But like I said, IMO your cache was not hidden within the guidelines of grounspeak. You may have noticed that I did not include any information which cache it was that I photographed. I see Krypton mentioned he was told about the cache. BTW, reviewers do go out looking for caches. I also you have not replied to his posting. Are you too embarrassed?

So to confirm, since my local reviewer refused to discuss it, any cache placed below ground level in any container that had been placed in the ground many years ago...is a buried cache. Is this correct? The local reviewer responded to an inquiry email stating he refused to give the reason out to anyone but the cache owner and complainer. So, any cache below ground level in a sewer drain for example should be archived, correct? Since a hole in the ground did not just appear and get cemented in? Just want to make sure everyone understands the meaning of "Caches that are buried. If a shovel, trowel or other "pointy" object is used to dig, whether in order to hide or to find the cache, then it is not appropriate". We have several local caches below ground level that have been activated and stay active. No, I won't confirm that. I have no desire to play word games with you. I'm off to buy camping supplies! Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Thank you for not clarifing the policies of geocaching.com. It is not word games, it is understanding how the volunteer reviewers decide what stays and goes. It seems noone wants to clarify. That way it is left up to thieir whim on that particular day. Also, have a good weekend. Sorry to have wasted your time.

So to confirm, since my local reviewer refused to discuss it, any cache placed below ground level in any container that had been placed in the ground many years ago...is a buried cache. Is this correct? The local reviewer responded to an inquiry email stating he refused to give the reason out to anyone but the cache owner and complainer. So, any cache below ground level in a sewer drain for example should be archived, correct? Since a hole in the ground did not just appear and get cemented in? Just want to make sure everyone understands the meaning of "Caches that are buried. If a shovel, trowel or other "pointy" object is used to dig, whether in order to hide or to find the cache, then it is not appropriate". We have several local caches below ground level that have been activated and stay active.

Refer to JohnnyVegas' pictures on the above thread at his interpretation of a buried cache. He complained and the cache was archieved prior to speaking with the cache owner. The cache he is picturing has upset him because he had a buried cache not get approved. There is not object used to dig up this cache. It was placed in a pre-exsisting box on the cache owners property. The lid is fully exposed above the ground. No digging was done to place the container. Favortism works both ways, I guess the wrong side got it this time. And I guess the fact that a grown man is destroying a cache based on his own hurt feelings should upset a few people and it is being condoned.

You just did. Guess that was kinda the point. You should share that with the bitter old man.

For starters...I did not have a cache removed based on guidelines. I actually read them and follow them. Other caches are being removed because one cacher is complaining and the caches do follow the guidelines. But I guess it helps to know the reviewer. Before you commend my cache being removed (which is not the case), maybe you should think about this other person who is going out and intentionally destroying caches because he has had some not get approved because he is not following the guidelines. That is what is the problem. Not the fact I did not follow the guidelines. So this one arrogant cacher is destroying caches. Maybe you should focus on sportsmanship since this game revolves around the seekers doing the hiding. Or do you share and agree with such childish sportsmanship.

Did you ask if it was on private property, did you ask if it was already there....or did you go off on your own agenda because you were turned down and now your pissed off. Get over it and move on...

I am weighing in on this topic because I am disgusted by the actions of a cacher in my area. To the point where I think any cache with his logs should be deleted. Regardless of your opinion, you do not DESTROY another cachers hard work. Regardless of your opinion, you do not weigh in because you are PISSED OFF. Mind your own business and come up with another idea. I have run into this person at events and it disgusts me that they are any part of this game, sport or hobby...whatever you would like to call.